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I suspect that what I am going to talk about is not unique to me an most of the people that read this thread will recall it happening to them at one time or another.

I am at the point in my cedar chest build project where it is time build the lid. This is my second attempt as the first one went gunny sack due to a mistake, we won't go into that other than to say that this second attempt has caused me to do a lot of thinking about how to make the lid and do a good job.

Well, I spend the morning milling out four pieces of QS Whit Oak, it went well, the edges lay gether so that they are almost invisible where they come together as they should, the thickness of each board has been planed so that the top faces are as they should be. In other words the milling of the rough cut lumber went extremely well, no big deal.

When I finished with the work it was noon and the temperature was such that it was time to give up for the day. So it was time to get cleaned up, eat some lunch and takd a nap, which I did.

Now, I need to tell the readers of this thread that the plan is to put a three sided frame around the lid and doing this was where the problem occurred with the first attempt at build a lid so designing the second frame has been on my mind for some time.

Well, upon waking up from my nap, I had an idea that I had never ever even considered before and it really seems to be a great design and makes me wonder why I had not thought of it before.

I know that our sub-conscience mind never stops wprking but is busy even when we are sleeping.

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Well Jerry maybe that is my problem I'm not getting a lot of sleep so I do not get enough done
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Yeah, the subconscious seems to work better when the conscious mind stops getting in the way.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Jerry, some of the best authors keep a note pad beside their bed so that as soon as they 'dream' an idea, they can write it down.

Are you working from plans for this chest?

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this second attempt has caused me to do a lot of thinking about how to make the lid and do a good job.

Well, I spend the morning milling out four pieces of QS Whit Oak, it went well, the edges lay gether so that they are almost invisible where they come together as they should, the thickness of each board has been planed so that the top faces are as they should be. In other words the milling of the rough cut lumber went extremely well, no big deal.
A lot of the pros make a prototype out of low priced wood, pine, poplar, etc., of a new to them project. Then when they get any mistakes, measurements, and so on all worked out, they use the quality wood, for the real build.

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a lot of the pros make a prototype out of low priced wood, pine, poplar, etc., of a new to them project. Then when they get any mistakes, measurements, and so on all worked out, they use the quality wood, for the real build.
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Jerry, this is actually an unusual topic that is not completely understood by psychologists and psychiatrists... For many years there has been an expression, "I don't know - let me sleep on it a day or two". This, to me; indicates that this phenomenon has been taking place for many years and for many people. This is also a subject that is very important to me - and here is why...
As a youngster, I was very easily distracted. If (back then) there was such a thing as the "ADD" diagnosis - I feel confident that I would have won the Blue Ribbon. Focus is a problem for me. I am a person who has had a wide variety of hobbies and interests and in retrospect, all of them have been "quiet activities". I've had a lifelong interest in rocks and minerals (no noise) and reptiles (again - no noise).
Interestingly, Joy understands my "handicap" and helps me to be in a quiet environment when I really need to focus. Fortunately, our 3- grown daughters do not have this focus problem - they seem to be able to work under all conditions.
God has blessed me richly as an inventor and I have been very successful as an inventor, with a wide variety of products on the market - all over the world. The really weird part, though; is that many of my inventions were thought of during my sleep! Many years after doing this hundreds of times, and actually being able to control my thoughts while sleeping - I learned what is going on!
In my "awake hours" there are a myriad of distractions and it is very difficult to maintain my [intended] train of thought, however; in my "asleep hours" there are no distractions and a proper train of thought (in my unconscious mind) can be maintained. I am also diagnosed as O.C.D. (Obsessive - Compulsive Disorder) and this actually is another reason that I am so easily distracted during my "awake hours". During my sleep, I am not distracted - so my "concentration" is at its best.

Jerry, you are not weird or strange for having done this. I will say, though; that you come-up with more thought-provoking subjects than anyone else I can think of. Please keep-up the good work, as I guarantee many of your questions are interesting to quite a large number of readers!

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Jerry some of my ideas come during daydreaming in church.
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A story I share with co-workers when they first join my group is about butter. I ask if they have ever made butter. Usually the answer is no so I tell them how and relate it to their current state of mind about their job.

Take a clean mayonaisse jar and fill it half way with room temperature whipping cream. Close the lid and begin to shake. This how your new job feels: conceptually shaken up. Things aren't making sense. But your brain is working in the background and making the connections. As you shake the jar of cream, something amazing happens.... all of a sudden, flop! It turns to butter. Your brain is busy turning that jumble of new words, concepts and what not into something solid like the butter and one day: flop! The job will make sense.

And as you recollect past jobs, this has always been the case, hasn't it?

That calms them down considerably.

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