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Hi, given the place I live, we don't have here "plywood", or at least is not common.

However, something we have, is "phenolic".

AFAIK, it's actually phenolic plywood.

However, the places I went to buy the wood they said that they don't cut it, since it destroy they saws. All other woods they do cut them, like MDF, pine, etc, every other one except this phenolic plywood.

So, my question is, if it destroy their saws, maybe it does the same with mine?.

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Hi, given the place I live, we don't have here "plywood", or at least is not common.

However, something we have, is "phenolic".

AFAIK, it's actually phenolic plywood.

However, the places I went to buy the wood they said that they don't cut it, since it destroy they saws. All other woods they do cut them, like MDF, pine, etc, every other one except this phenolic plywood.

So, my question is, if it destroy their saws, maybe it does the same with mine?.

Thanks!.
not the saw - the cutters/blades...
go back to the manufacturer and ask them what style/type of blade they use to cut their own product...

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Yeah I meant the blade, my bad.

I will ask the manufacturers what they use to cut it then.

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Yeah I meant the blade, my bad.

I will ask the manufacturers what they use to cut it then.

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look to a TCG blade with a low to negative hook angle......
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Hi, given the place I live, we don't have here "plywood", or at least is not common.

However, something we have, is "phenolic".

AFAIK, it's actually phenolic plywood.

However, the places I went to buy the wood they said that they don't cut it, since it destroy they saws. All other woods they do cut them, like MDF, pine, etc, every other one except this phenolic plywood.

So, my question is, if it destroy their saws, maybe it does the same with mine?.

Thanks!.
You had me concerned there for a second lol. Sounds like it must be tough on blades though .
Other than a fine tooth carbide blade what the heck else is there? If that's the case it must dull router blades in a hurry to . I was interested in using this material at one time myself so very curious

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You had me concerned there for a second lol. Sounds like it must be tough on blades though .
Other than a fine tooth carbide blade what the heck else is there? If that's the case it must dull router blades in a hurry to . I was interested in using this material at one time myself so very curious
If it's the same stuff..
here it's called NorFormFir or Burke-ply..
used for reusable concrete forms...
and it will destroy cutters...
we cut with a circular saw and demo blades...
by the 10 pack..

Artemix, can you link us to that plywood???

wonder if this one would work..

Freud Tools | 8" Plastic Blade

Freud Tools | 10" Plastic Blade

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I've cut a limited amount of phenolic plywood with my Forrest Woodworker blade and did not notice any issues with the blade after the project. However, it stands to reason that using wood cutting blades for other, harder, materials will eventually dull the blade. I'm with Stick on this one. Buy a pack of cheap blades, make the cut and throw the blades away.
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If it's the same stuff..
here it's called NorFormFir or Burke-ply..
used for reusable concrete forms...
and it will destroy cutters...
we cut with a circular saw and demo blades...
by the 10 pack..

Artemix, can you link us to that plywood???

wonder if this one would work..

Freud Tools | 8" Plastic Blade

Freud Tools | 10" Plastic Blade
Yes, here are two links of companies that offer that product:

Placa de Fenolico 18mm 1,22 x 2,44 mts Grandis Industrial

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Grandis | todofenolicos

Not sure how much info can be obtained from there though.
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Yes, here are two links of companies that offer that product:

Placa de Fenolico 18mm 1,22 x 2,44 mts Grandis Industrial

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Grandis | todofenolicos

Not sure how much info can be obtained from there though.
we have your Grands here...
I know that ply...
be right back....

okay...
is the ply you have only faced or phenolic layered???
use the TCG blade with about a 5º hook angle if it's only faced..
use the polycarbonate blade if it's phenolic all the way through...
raise the blade around 35 to 40MM above the ply...
push the ply through the saw at a steady rate(you'll know if you are going too fast and don't stop or pause... avoid going really slow...

http://www.plywoodsuppliers.net/ligh...sheet-p-6.html

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