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Hello all. I hope all is well with everyone. I have 2 questions:

1. I came across a box of about a dozen 10 inch saw blades that had belonged to my Dad, and my Mom is cleaning out and found them. They don't look too bad as far as sharpness, but they're mighty gummed up and dirty. I think he probably cut a lot of pine. I've had good luck using 409 to clean router bits, but it leaves a little bit of gumminess that I've been getting off with alcohol or mineral spirits.

I'm thinking about getting a shallow, reclosable plastic container and just keeping it about half full of 409 so I can soak blades and bits in overnight before brushing them clean. Do you think that just rinsing the blades with hot water would remove the residue that 409 seems to leave, or should I wipe them down with mineral spirits or some such?

2. I'm planning to make several small keepsake boxes to give to family members and friends for bdays, etc. I thought it might look nice to have some really small ball feet on them. But the ones I've found so far are pretty pricey, especially considering that I'm planning to make several.

Does anyone know of a really inexpensive source of ball feet or maybe brass pins? I had even considered gently drilling a roundout in the bottom corners with a drill bit, then epoxying ball bearings on for feet. I've also been looking at lamp hardware, like the threaded ball that holds some lamp shades on. Not cheap enough yet. Any ideas? Thanks. Jim
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No idea about ball feet, but the blade cleaning should work fine. I soak mine in simple green and use a brass brush to clean them. I also use a brush on my drill press for a lot of cleaning jobs.
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409 is water soluble so use soap and water and rinse well with a wipe of WD49 or something similar after. BTW, Trend Tool and Bit Cleaner works pretty good and doesn't leave a residue.

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No idea about ball feet, but the blade cleaning should work fine. I soak mine in simple green and use a brass brush to clean them. I also use a brush on my drill press for a lot of cleaning jobs.
Even Simple Green manufacturer does NOT recommend using Simple Green to clean carbide teeth. They offer a different product - Simple Green for Aircraft (Which I believe is blue in color) IS recommended for carbide teeth.

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Ball feet are available at Michaels art supply store in the wooden knick-knack area. They're cheap.

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Hello all. I hope all is well with everyone. I have 2 questions:

1. I came across a box of about a dozen 10 inch saw blades that had belonged to my Dad, and my Mom is cleaning out and found them. They don't look too bad as far as sharpness, but they're mighty gummed up and dirty. I think he probably cut a lot of pine. I've had good luck using 409 to clean router bits, but it leaves a little bit of gumminess that I've been getting off with alcohol or mineral spirits.

I'm thinking about getting a shallow, reclosable plastic container and just keeping it about half full of 409 so I can soak blades and bits in overnight before brushing them clean. Do you think that just rinsing the blades with hot water would remove the residue that 409 seems to leave, or should I wipe them down with mineral spirits or some such?

2. I'm planning to make several small keepsake boxes to give to family members and friends for bdays, etc. I thought it might look nice to have some really small ball feet on them. But the ones I've found so far are pretty pricey, especially considering that I'm planning to make several.

Does anyone know of a really inexpensive source of ball feet or maybe brass pins? I had even considered gently drilling a roundout in the bottom corners with a drill bit, then epoxying ball bearings on for feet. I've also been looking at lamp hardware, like the threaded ball that holds some lamp shades on. Not cheap enough yet. Any ideas? Thanks. Jim
A possibility might be drill out the round out and epoxy marbles in them. They come in all different sizes and colors.

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Even Simple Green manufacturer does NOT recommend using Simple Green to clean carbide teeth. They offer a different product - Simple Green for Aircraft (Which I believe is blue in color) IS recommended for carbide teeth.
They do not recommend SOAKING the blade for over 15 minutes, simple soaking or spray and brush is ok. I never soak my blades any longer than that.
True they do say the blue cleaner would be best for the carbide especially if you want to let them soak, I have never seen that in the store, I will have to see if I can find some.
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Trend Tool and Bit Cleaner is cheap and safe and it works. Mike, our missing forum Liason, left a tool with cast iron top outside over night and it got rained on and the Trend solution even removed the rust and helped prevent it from returning.

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I just soak my blades in soap and water and brush them. Works just fine. Why pay for more chemicals?!

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I use 1/4" ball feet of brass found @ Lee Valley Tools Hardware Catalogue under small box hardware. ("feet") I think they are rather inexpensive and look great. Much easier to drill for, than marbles. You use epoxy glue to secure the brass ball feet. Good luck with your gifts. We'd love to see your results too.

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