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Often it's asked what are good saw blades and which ones produce the most bang for the buck...
came across this from Charlie at Freud had this to say...




an up date to the current status on Freud differences...


All Freud blades come from the same machines in the same manufacturing plant. We make our own micrograin carbide in numerous formulations that represent various degrees of hardness. The carbide is selected depending on the intended application (the hardest is used for laminates the softest for ripping) as are the tooth angles and tooth quantity. The steel for the blade plates is all the same grade. The brazing is all the same. The key differences between the 2 main lines of Freud blades are:

The LU/LM Industrial blades have the thickest tips for the most resharpenings and are generally full kerf. We also offer the most selection of specialty blades in this line. These have the most appeal to professionals who need to get a lot of sharpenings out of a blade and to artisans who need specialty blades for their projects.

The Diablo line has blades intended for purposes like framing, siding, decking and general home improvement and is packaged and promoted in ways that appeal to contractors and DIYers.

Do professional woodworkers shop for blades at Home Depot? Probably some do and they can get excellent performance from a Diablo blade for a lot of their uses but with a shorter overall life (and lower cost) due to the tip thickness.

Why not compare a Diablo blade to Forrest? Consider this analogy: Toyota cars and Lexus cars share a lot of the same components and are made by the same company. Would you compare a Camry with a BMW?

We make a fourth line of blades (F400 Premier series) that is very similar to the WWII and is priced similarly. The difference between ours and Forrest's is that ours is made by computer controlled, super modern equipment and theirs is made by hand. Both methods have advantages and disadvantages but I leave the final verdict to the consumer.

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Well I bought freud TS blades and the dado from them . Plus all my router bits

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I buy Tenryu blades. Less expensive than Forrest and more expensive than Freud....well I haven't priced their F400 Premiers. But I'm quite satisfied. But then, I'm easy.

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I have several Freud blades - including three fairly new Diablo's. The one on my RAS is a good one and the one on my miter saw is ok. I had an identical one to the RAS on my table saw which for no better term was a piece of junk with at least one or two teeth that were brazed on wrong, leaving scarf marks on each cut. I also have an LU blade, that before getting dull and needed sharpening, was great. Now, it needs TLC from someone that can do a correct resharpening. The current blade on the TS is a Marples by Irwin as suggested to me in a thread here I started 18 months or so back. That one and a now 'shot' Skarpaz have been about the best ever for me. I guess you can say that I'm not really a 100% fan of Diablo blades. Are Forrest's worth 3X or more money as a Freud? Maybe, but is it all marketing and yes, Forrest does spend a bunch of bucks on advertising, especially for a pretty small niche company. Are there other great saw blades available - sure are including a dirt cheap Hitachi that was used on the RAS for a lot of cuts

Of course, this is my opinion and based on experience with only those blades mentioned.

Stick, et.al. - sorry if I digressed onthis thread, but I look skeptically at advertising hype no matter the item

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Diablo blades are Freud's economy line....

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Diablo blades are Freud's economy line....
Not if you read their hype which tells me that they are the best thing since sliced bread.

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I have a few Freud blades and they are very good. Lots of use on them and still going. I haven't tried Forrest yet but a buddy has and he says they are as good as they say.

The best cutoff blade I have ever used, hands down, is from Onsrud. Never seen anything like it. The ends of the boards look like they've been planed.

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I use a Forrest WWII in my TS and the 80 tooth version in the miter saw and have had these blades for around 15 years now. I'm not a daily woodworker and these blades have served me well. I have several Freud specialty blades for laminate and veneer. They are also excellent blades IMO. I use the Diablo blades in my circular saw as they provide a very clean cut without breaking the bank.

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I've pretty much stuck to the Freud blades, and particularly like their glue line for ripping and their 80 tooth for laminates and really smooth cuts in plywood. Although I find Freud blades at the HD, I have ordered the two I mentioned from Amazon. The glue line is from their industrial line and is a real pleasure to use.

I am not a heavy user though. I also do a lot of outdoor projects and have a 6.5 inch 18v DeWalt circular saw that I truly love using. Light and easy to handle, plenty of power. I use DeWalt's ultra thin curf blades (30 and 40 teeth) in it for the most part. Much easier to cut on a straight edge because the torque isn't fighting you. Thanks for the heads up Stick.
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I recently bought and am trying Dewalts 60 tooth 10" blades. DEWALT DW3106P5D60I Series 20 10-Inch 60T Fine Finish Saw Blade, 2-Pack - Table Saw Blades - Amazon.com I burned up a 90 tooth Freud on the Miter saw cutting laminate flooring and last night threw on the Dewalt while the Freud gets sharpened. Will do the same for with the table saw when a sharpening is due there.

The Bargain Hunter in me couldn't pass up 2 blades for $35 even though the 2 Freuds are the best thing I have cut with to date. I imagine in the long run I wish I would have bought another Freud... eventually I will and will be switching out Freuds when sharpening is due.

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