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Got 2 side-by-side built in face framed cabinets with overlay doors....installed between 2 end walls. These were custom built but it appears that the hinging was an afterthought. They used Blum Compact 33 Euro Style with Overlay Edge Plates. The outer end Stiles abut the end walls and in order for the 2 center doors to fit properly the center Stiles were notched to accept the Edge Plates which allows the center doors to be offset toward the middle and close properly. The doors are 4 feet tall and not light. There are 3 hinges on each door. Over time and with a lot of use the hinges have loosened. I would like to re-hinge the doors and am looking for suggestions. I have considered piano hinges, new edge mounted overlay hinges, surface mounted overlay hinges, building up the stiles to accept frameless type hinges. Modifying the doors themselves is not an option.
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Can you remove the screws, plug the hole with a tooth pick and glue, then dress the repair and reinstall the hinge?

I had to repair a broken screw by drilling around it with a plug cutter, then plugged the hole and reattached the hinge. It is an invisible repair.

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Can you remove the screws, plug the hole with a tooth pick and glue, then dress the repair and reinstall the hinge?

I had to repair a broken screw by drilling around it with a plug cutter, then plugged the hole and reattached the hinge. It is an invisible repair.
Yes, I can do that. These hinges are not easy to work with. The outside doors only open to slightly more than 90 degrees (hit the end walls) and it's difficult to work on the attachment screw. One of the inner doors was completely off and I reinstalled it's overlay edge hinges with longer screws and it now works better than the rest. But things aren't great....doors rub a little when closing....difficult to adjust and align....one of the outer stiles is a bit loose. etc.
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Loose stile? Is there room behind the joint to scab on a support piece...maybe three inches long, hidden best as possible?

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Something like this (as seen from inside the cabinet)?

If needed, you could always paint it flat black...or whatever color matches the interior.
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If needed, you could always paint it flat black...or whatever color matches the interior.
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Yes, I can do that and will most likely have to. I can't tell how the rails and stiles are joined but probably not mortised and tenoned. Everything is painted white so patching holes and painting should not be an issue. Whoever notched the stiles wasn't too neat anyway. There are a bunch of young kids in the house that use these cabinets a lot and they're kind of rough on them anyway so functional is more important than fine furniture grade pretty.

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Yes, I can do that and will most likely have to. I can't tell how the rails and stiles are joined but probably not mortised and tenoned. Everything is painted white so patching holes and painting should not be an issue. Whoever notched the stiles wasn't too neat anyway. There are a bunch of young kids in the house that use these cabinets a lot and they're kind of rough on them anyway so functional is more important than fine furniture grade pretty.
For a scab, even 1/2 inch wood (plywood or solid), a little glue and clamped until dry should be fine. Maybe run in a couple of screws if you have room. Do 'em all, and once the touch-up painting has been done, it would look custom made that way!

Good luck. I hope it works out for you.

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For a scab, even 1/2 inch wood (plywood or solid), a little glue and clamped until dry should be fine. Maybe run in a couple of screws if you have room. Do 'em all, and once the touch-up painting has been done, it would look custom made that way!

Good luck. I hope it works out for you.
The wood working will be the easy part. What to do about the hinges is the head scratcher. The more I think about it the more I am convinced that everything was built with the hinges 'out of mind' and they were an afterthought and got short changed. My problem is how to re-hinge.
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The originals were Blum Compact 33 hinges. I replaced them with Grass TEC864 hinges.....more adjustability. They're installed and working fine. There were only 3 hinges per door which was pushing the limit so I planned to put 5 hinges on each door. I did 3 per door to see if the Grass would work better....and they do. I'll wait a bit to see if things go out of alignment and then add the additional hinges if necessary.
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