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Phil Thien's planer sled sounds like a good idea. He talks about using hot glue as shims. The hot glue I have dries really fast and there is no way I could do what he suggest as the hot glue would dry to fast. Is there hot glue that has more open time?

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Hi Don I don't know the exact glue, but we use a commercial hot-glue (Still in Round Sticks) but it looks like a honey colour and takes a little longer to melt in a regular glue gun. We use a higher temp. commercial gun and I use it for all sorts of template work. It does have a longer open time than the clear or whitish colour sticks. I don't know if this helps.

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Phil Thien's planer sled sounds like a good idea. He talks about using hot glue as shims. The hot glue I have dries really fast and there is no way I could do what he suggest as the hot glue would dry to fast. Is there hot glue that has more open time?

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Short answer, YES. Long answer, you can do a web search and find several different types of "glue sticks" that are used for different applications. They will range anywhere from hobbyist to professional uses. Some have different hold strengths, temperature flows, and open times. You just have to find what fits your needs.

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Her is a link to 3M's site they show different temp and times for hot glue
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The darker the amber colour the stronger it is and higher the melting point. The working time is also decreased. The Bohning Company sells a stick of very amber coloured hot melt for attaching arrow points to wooden shafts but it is rectangular and meant to be used with a torch.

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Short answer, YES. Long answer, you can do a web search and find several different types of "glue sticks" that are used for different applications. They will range anywhere from hobbyist to professional uses. Some have different hold strengths, temperature flows, and open times. You just have to find what fits your needs.
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Any problem with the glue leeching into the piece of wood ?
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I have never had a problem and I have been using this technique since 1998. I keep a spray bottle with Methyl Hydrate (I believe in the US you call it Wood Alcohol) and a little spray and the template pops right off (it is almost like it freezes the hot melt glue). I have never had a problem with the Methyl Hydrate staining the wood.

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Hot melt won't either. It is a surface glue, it doesn't soak in.

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Any problem with the glue leeching into the piece of wood ?
w/ open grain/cell woods...

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