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post #1 of 83 (permalink) Old 01-13-2016, 08:42 AM Thread Starter
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Default Hand Planes so hard to find!

I'd really like to pick up some vintage stanley planes. Specifically a no. 7 or 8, a 4 and 5 but there are NONE around here that I have found. Ebay prices are a little bit more than I want to pay for most of them and the others that are reasonably priced go quick. I sure don't want to pay the price of a new lie nielsen.


How are the new contractor grade stanleys?

Where are y'all finding the vintage planes?

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Hi Dustin

Can't speak about the new iteration of the Stanleys. Read a review a while ago that said they weren't too bad. I too don't want to pay the prices for the Lie Nielsen or Veritas, but I got enjoyment out of doing the refurb. A while back you could still buy parts packages from Stanley, knobs, totes, etc. - not sure if that is still available.

I have several #5, a #6, a couple of #4 and a couple of block planes. When I was into refurbing planes I would generally go to flea markets.

Not sure how long you've been doing this or how much you've researched but a good website to go to is Patrick's Blood and Gore - probably the best central location for information on Stanley's and what to look for, how to identify age, etc.

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Thanks for the link. I'll have to check it out.

I've been interested in woodworking for a while and have built a few things here and there but really, I'm just getting started. I have always wanted to learn more about the hobby and am now finally in a place in my life where I can seriously start pursuing it. I grew up in a DIY family and worked with my dad doing siding, roofing etc but have not done much fine woodworking until now.
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Well then, you've come to the right place - there's enough info here, and experienced members willing to share, that'll keep you going for a couple of lifetimes.

Don't be afraid to ask questions and good luck with your know obsession (I mean hobby).

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There are some decent Chinese-made planes around. Here they are sold under the Quangsheng name, and a seller in Germany has similar ones under the Juuma name. I don't know if anyone is importing them into the US. They are a cut above the modern Stanleys I have seen, though I'm not familiar with the new contractor grade ones you mentioned Dustin. However they are also more expensive than Stanley - but still much cheaper than Veritas or Lie Nielsen here.

I looked at Stanley planes at a tool show a few years ago. They had some out on a bench for you to try out, and they actually seemed not too bad. But when you looked at the ones on the shelf that you could buy, the machining was much rougher than on the "demo" models. Someone had obviously spent a long time fettling those demo planes to make them perform well.

Edit: looks like "WoodRiver" planes may be the same as the Quangshengs in the USA.

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Check out the Wood River planes. I have two so far, a #4 and a 6. Wonderful tools with very high quality. Bottoms and sides are square and pretty flat. Irons are excellent and not too much play in the adjuster. No matter what plane you buy, you're going to have to do a tuneup, make sure the bottom and the underside of the iron are flat. I am very happy with them and if you check out the reviews, you'll find they come well recommended. If you get one that is out of whack too far, you could probably return them or get a replacement. The company is clearly working to earn and keep a strong reputation.

I do have a Stanley Sweetheart block plane that required almost no tuning other than a final blade sharpening and flattening. But I've heard they are a little spotty on quality, so make sure if you buy one that you check it out thoroughly before you tune it so if its way off or too rough to suit you, you can exchange it. I think Stanley is putting out the Sweetheart versions to try to restore its tarnished reputation. The company that bought them sure did a number on what was once a great brand.
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There was a thread a couple of days ago talking about Rob Cosman - I'm sure he's involved with the Woodriver planes somehow. Not sure if he designed them or what that involvement was but if he's involved, they must be decent.
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Thanks for the info y'all. I just might have to order a woodriver #5.


I picked up a cheap schefield hand plane at the local hardware store a few weeks back, sharpened the blade and started playing with it. There's something to be said for seeing those tight curls come off. This has made me reconsider the search for a powered jointer and look for some hand planes to do the same function.
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Be certain to purchase the V3 versions of the Woodriver planes. Early production models were plagued by quality control issues. However WR listened, made corrections and now offer an exceptional lineup. A fine plane at a fair price point. They also offer package deals on their planes. Block planes are an acquired taste. I'd avoid the Stanly handplanes. Stanley blocks sent to shabby.
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Be certain to purchase the V3 versions of the Woodriver planes. Early production models were plagued by quality control issues. However WR listened, made corrections and now offer an exceptional lineup. A fine plane at a fair price point. They also offer package deals on their planes. Block planes are an acquired taste. I'd avoid the Stanly handplanes. Stanley blocks sent to shabby.
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