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I bet a lot of people out there have tools that they bought thinking they'd get a lot of use out of them only to find that over time the tool never gets used. It could be a quality issue, poor design, gimmick or just doesn't help you much. I thought I'd start a thread that could capture some of these less that useful tools and why they fall short. I have a couple. Would love to hear your experiences.

What: Biscuit Jointer (aka plate jointer)
How I thought I'd use it: Align boards for edge glue ups, face frames
Why I don't use it: It really doesn't help that much and wastes a lot of time. Cauls for wide glueups and face frames just take a little care.

What: Tenon jig for table saw (standard Delta clone)
How I thought I'd use it: well, making tenons quickly and with high quality.
Why I don't use it: It's fiddly - too much setup time, stock is held vertically, multiple steps with different fence settings. Speed tenon method is way faster with quicker setup (set the fence once, set the blade height once, go).

Measure twice, cut once and CROSS OUT THE WRONG MARKS.

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Great idea, Phil...I may have to check my "dust" shelf...

What: Biscuit Jointer
How I thought I'd use it: Align boards for edge or grain glue ups
Why I don't use it: Splining takes less time, get two for the price of one (strength and alignment)

What: Tenon jig for table saw (Delta 182)
How I thought I'd use it: making tenons
Why I don't use it: Using floating tenons instead; setup was a bear; needed too many test cuts

What: Digital devices (Wixey, etc...)
How I thought I'd use it: More accuracy
Why I don't use it: Found myself striving for too much "perfection"; prefer squares, levels, bar stock and dial devices

...willing to bet these come up often...
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Digital verniers. gathering dust because I'm sick and tired of changing batteries everytime i get it out the box.
Same goes for anything that needs a stupid small battery.
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Great idea, Phil...I may have to check my "dust" shelf...

What: Biscuit Jointer
How I thought I'd use it: Align boards for edge or grain glue ups
Why I don't use it: Splining takes less time, get two for the price of one (strength and alignment)

What: Tenon jig for table saw (Delta 182)
How I thought I'd use it: making tenons
Why I don't use it: Using floating tenons instead; setup was a bear; needed too many test cuts

What: Digital devices (Wixey, etc...)
How I thought I'd use it: More accuracy
Why I don't use it: Found myself striving for too much "perfection"; prefer squares, levels, bar stock and dial devices

...willing to bet these come up often...
Great idea to bold the tool name. Helps a lot with readability.
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Tenon jig, Biscuit joiner, Digital devices. For all the reasons mentioned. I now think carefully before buying a tool I want, rather than need. I've wanted a band saw that can resaw up to 12 inches, but the truth is that given the things I do, I can resaw wonderfully on my table saw.

The other thing that is a little bit frustrating is forgetting the little accessories you bought then misplaced and then bought again. Router bits come to mind, but other little things like sharpening strop or a diamond sharpening gadgets are just as irritating. I keep a lot of the small things hanging on a pegboard wall so I am less likely to buy doubles.

And I can't fathom why a flat battery runs for 10 years in a computer, but dies in months in digital tools. Maybe an engineer could think about that before we all give digital devices such a bad rap that they go out of business?

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I get why people hate battery powered devices but I view batteries as just another shop consumable like sandpaper or box cutter blades and keep a small stock of them in my marking & measuring drawer.
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Any digital measuring device. I have a $180 Starrett I never turn on anymore. It really isn't that hard to read a mechanical one.
Serpentine tool. Looks like a jig saw but spins like a router or Rotozip. It's under powered and a Rotozip works better which I also have. But I got it cheap on sale so it was worth the bits that came with it.
Tools that are under used for the price I had to pay: 108" x 6" Vertical belt sander. I wish I had taken that money and put it towards a Perfomax or maybe a Woodmaster combo.

Unlike everyone so far I'm glad I bought the biscuit joiner and the Delta tenon jig.
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You reminded me Charles.

What: Disc/Belt sander combo
How I thought I'd use it: General flat sanding, especially for box joints
Why I don't use it: Way too aggressive. Burns and grabs. Collecting dust since I got the Ridgid oscillating belt sand which does a great job.

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What: Biscuit Jointer (aka plate jointer)
How I thought I'd use it: Align boards for edge glue ups, face frames
Why I don't use it: It really doesn't help that much and wastes a lot of time. Cauls for wide glueups and face frames just take a little care.
My SO just offered to buy me one onecial. Above is the reason I turned it down. Can spend that money on something I might use a little (lot) more.
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What: Biscuit Jointer
How I thought I'd use it: Align boards for edge glue ups
Why I don't use it: Used it a few times initially, but it is time consuming - take more care with glue ups, and proper use of good Bessey clamps.
Why don't I get rid of it? - wasn't that expensive (King model) and don't want to waste time dealing with tire kickers.

What: Radial Arms Saw
Offered one from Dad (Sears Anniversary model) - said no - told him to try to sell it for whatever he could get
Bought a Bosch 12 dual bevel slider instead - use it all the time.
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