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Actually I think that I know the answer to my curiosity about hand planes. Recently there was a thread about milling a 15" x 30" piece of walnut with a slight bow in it.

I don't recall if the board had any twist in it or not, but I'm assuming, should say wondering, if a person that is skilled in the use of a hand plane could flatten both faces of such a board in a manner that would be equal to what would be accomplished with a 15" jointer and a planer?

There probably are 15" jointers in commercial shops but not practical price wish for the average hobbyist shop like my own.

Just wondering about the potential of the hand plane. I suppose that the fact that beautiful woodworking was done long before power tools were invented should answer my question.

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That'd be one of these...
Veritas® Bevel-Up Jointer Plane - Lee Valley Tools


Beautiful tool but $400+... yikes!
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Check out the Wood River (version 3) longer models, which are a great value and very well made. Not quite as elegant as the Veritas, but more affordable. Flattening, sharpening and very fine adjustment as well as technique are involved, but yes you can plane a board that size and get it very flat. Lots of videos on that topic. You will work up a sweat, but the sound of a plane making paper thin curls is very satisfying.

There are also people here who would suggest cutting the piece into smaller pieces, flattening and planing those, then gluing up panels for final use. Less likely to warp than a solid piece. Wood with a twist wants to keep twisting even after assembly. Personally, I would rather have a glued up section, which properly done, will make for a great final result.

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Just wondering about the potential of the hand plane. I suppose that the fact that beautiful woodworking was done long before power tools were invented should answer my question.

Jerry that is how they did it in the old days. Come on you remember.

I have a Wood River and really like it. I am not an expert on it's use but when I do use it, it makes me smile.
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For what was spent on my jointer and planer, I could have purchased a very nice set of hand planes. The work that would be required to mill the parts for any projects may have been just what I needed to keep my weight down and provide some well needed exercise.

Of course the time required to finish any project would be greatly extended.

All kidding aside, one has to admire the work done before power tools were avallable, this can be said of many endeavors besides woodworking.

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Jerry if you want to feel really humble about your (and our) woodworking skills google Roentgen furniture.
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Jerry if you want to feel really humble about your (and our) woodworking skills google Roentgen furniture.
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Yeah, I know deep down that I will never be skilled enough to try to re-create one of those pieces. Maybe if I could stay healthy for another 100 years.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Yeah, I know deep down that I will never be skilled enough to try to re-create one of those pieces. Maybe if I could stay healthy for another 100 years.

I'm beginning to think that what Chuck is saying is due to the following. Some skills, in this case, using a hand planes is not unlike playing a musical instrument. People that understand music and can readt it and play musical instruments seem to have been born with some innate understanding and/or skill that others do not possess.

For example, I can barely spell music, let alone understand how to read it. Even worse my interest in doing so is not existant, but at the same time, I like music and enjoy listening to most of it, certainly not all of it.

Certain skills in woodworking are, in my opinion, a bit like music in that not all woodworkers are born with the skills to do what others are born with. I am of the opinion that using a hand plane is an example of of what I'm trying to explain. Because of my lack of skill or even enterest in learning about them, I will have to \resort to my power tools and just sing along with everybody else as best I can and continue to admire those that are blessed with the talents to use the old and wonderful hand tools of days gone by.

That's my opinion on the matter, does anybody feel the same as I do on the subject?

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