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View Poll Results: What is the main method of dust control in your shop?
Shop Vacuum connected to the tool(s) 79 30.38%
Shop Vacuum after the job is done 24 9.23%
Cyclone Dust Collector 44 16.92%
Single Stage Dust Collector 75 28.85%
Broom and Dust Pan 18 6.92%
None 4 1.54%
Other (specify) 16 6.15%
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Thanks Warren and Jubilee Have contacted the manufacturers of my vax vacuum cleaner to see if they supply Hepa filters for my model.

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Since my workshop is just an 8 ft x 8 ft metal shed, I have no room for a shopvac. At the moment, I have no room for a worktable either (router or otherwise) but that's another matter. I use a Shopsmith as it combines five tools in one, and an old room vac my wife gave me which I attach to the Shopsmith using a hose adapter I made from thick cardboard. This setup has worked well for me about 25 years like that. It probably collects about 80% of the sawdust and the rest just falls on the driveway floor to be blown away in the wind.
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I have been replacing my portable sanders with units that have vacuum attachments or adding the parts (when available).

I couldn't order the adapter for my Porter Cable profile sander. While at my local Woodcrafters last week I looked around the sanding pads they stock for it & "lo and behold" there were two of the kits. So if you are doing the same thing, don't forget your local hardware and or specialty wood working supply stores.

In addition, Truevalue had a sale on a small (1 gal?) Stanley branded (yellow) wet/dry vac (~$18). Not likely to have a hepa filter, but this lets me take it with me to some places I would otherwise not be able to bring a shop vac.
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I use a Delta dust collector on my tablesaw, bandsaw and router. Sometimes I'll hook my palm sanders to it. In warmer weather a box fan and cross ventilation help. I end the day sweeping up the piles of dust followed by opening the garage door and giving a once over with the leaf blower. Even with all that I'm amazed at the amount of dust that settles the next time I'm in the shop.
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I use several dust collection methods but could only check one on the "exclusive or" radio buttons selection device. I have a 3 HP cyclonic dust collection system with ducts and drops scattered around my 24x36 ft shop. I also have two machines, a miter saw and an oscillating drum sander, on their own shop vacs with automatic switching to turn on the vacs when the tool runs. I am still struggling with dust and chips from the wood lathe (broom & dust pan) but have some ideas to try.

My small vac on the drum sander does a very good job and is not overkill like the 3 HP cyclone would be for the little sander. The dust collection design on the miter saw (12 inch compound slide model) is poor at best and needs to be improved. I'm thinking a large funnel much larger than the small opening provided by manufacturer. That may require using the cyclone to move enough air to function properly.

The lathe presents some design problems above the trivial. If you place a dust collection device (various ones for sale pre-built specifically for lathe use) where it will work well then you can't use tools on the work piece as it is obscured by the dust collection apparatus. Mounting dust collection opposite the operator's position will gather sanding dust well but do nearly nothing for the stream of shavings, chips, and dust thrown out by a tool in contact with the work piece.

I have an idea to test regarding the stream of debris exiting the work piece headed for the operator of the lathe. I will be testing an "air curtain" similar to that used by businesses to be able to have their doors open but not let all conditioned air escape. It will essentially be a narrow exit slit in an air duct similar to a floor sweeping attachment for a vacuum cleaner but furnished with air rather than exhausted. Think shop vac hooked up backwards. This concentrated blast of air will deflect the debris stream down and away from the operators face and may even reduce the extent of the floor covered in chips by a lathe session. The exit nozzle will be high enough above the operators line of sight to the work piece to avoid conflict.

Best fo0r last... My router table is quite a source of chips and dust. Recently I installed a flexible (silicone rubber?) attachment under the table. It is essentially concentric with the router shaft and seals the region between the bottom of the table and the router motor. Their is a hose fitting on the side and hoses and fittings to connect the above table dust collection port in parallel with the new under table port just installed. This accessory improves dust collection very noticibly and is well worth its moderate cost and the time/effort to install. Although I didn't follow the detailed instructions and went for my own custom installation it nevertheless works very well indeed.

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Over the past couple of years, I've been accumulating dust collection "solutions," including a cyclone unit (built by someone else using the Wood Magazine plans) and a spare Harbor Freight 2 hp dust collector (I was sure the one I was already using wasn't going to last long - it's been over four years now). When I built my new shop last year, I installed six inch duct work from Home Depot from each tool to the cyclone. Then, since I now had two of the Harbor Freight units, I put a tee on the outflow side of the cyclone and installed both dust collectors. Finally I added Wynn Environmental cartridge filters to both units and new blast gates to every tool. Works good for my 6-inch jointer, OK for my planer and router table, barely for my bandsaw and miter saw, and hardly at all for my table saw. As Bill Pentz predicted, a lot of chips make it past the cyclone and into the dust collectors. But I still only have to empty the bags once for every 8 or 10 times I empty the trash can under the cyclone. So it saves a lot of work and money for new bags.
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I use a Delta 50-750 single stage collector to collect from my tools. I have a small basement shop, so I just directly connect it to whatever tool I'm using. IT is a little inconvenient swapping the connection around, but it works in my small shop. Given how fast the bag fills up, I can say it does a very good job of keeping the output from the planer, jointer and router table from ending up on the floor. I have a contractor type table saw with the base modified as best as possible to collect from it with marginal results...but it's better than nothing.

As for the airborne stuff, I have a JetAFS-1000B air filtration system hung from the ceiling. By the looks of the prefilter, it is catching a good amount of dust, but there's still quite a bit that doesn't get caught. My wife still complains about the dust that collects, but it's better than nothing.
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Ridgid 6HP vac with a Woodstock separator. May make a Thein lid for my 20-gallon trash can, but the 5-gallon bucket only fills up quick with the planer.

Going to build a downdraft sanding box as part of my upcoming remodel.

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If you use the good filters, they are as effective, if not more so, than the "dedicated" air filters from the woodworking companies. And, you can usually build them much cheaper than buying the new units.
You can often get good used squirrel cage fans from HVAC contractors for next to nothing. They take them out of old heaters they are replacing for customers.
Squirrel cage fans usually have a LONG life and are somewhat universal in size. Just check the amperage and make sure your electrical circuitry can handle the load.
Check out the many variations that other woodworkers have made, and good luck.
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