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The main points for restoration are making sure the frog the blade sits against is flat (may require a little light filing), making sure the chip breaker sits tight and flat against the blade (may require a little honing), and getting the blade flat (both sides) and sharp and the sole mostly flat. The latter two can sometimes take a bit of work. Some say that the sides should be square with the sole but unless you plan on using it with a shooting board then I don't think that matters very much. The rest is getting it adjusted properly with the right amount of cutting edge exposed. The older Stanley planes were decent tools but occasionally suffered from a lack of quality control to turn production into perfection which is what you may need to fix.

Another good video I've seen about restoring old planes was by UK woodworker Paul Sellers. He took an old Stanley and had it cutting thin shavings in 45 minutes to an hour. He showed how to put just enough effort into it to get it to work properly without being obsessive compulsive, which is something I'm bad about.
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May I suggest a Stanley 55 to satisfy that itch...?
Thank you kind Sir, but after a modicum of Googling, and my preference for a basic KISS approach, you will understand if i politely decline.

However, should you find a spare, please feel free to send it in this direction for a thorough disassembly and cleaning, after which, reassembly may, or may not be an option ...

More seriously, I do wonder if Stanley were employing a few Nimrods at the time who though the number of bells and whistles attached equated to ... better ...

Also, I wonder if there is some relationship between the complexity of the 51 & 52 I originally posted, and your offering of the 55

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The Stanley 51/52 is a relatively rare bird indeed. And worthy of any collection. Especially when as it appears in nice condition. The 51 refers to the plane and the 52 denotes the "chute". More commonly known in the states as a shooting board. The 51 and 52 are unique to each other, being designed to work in combination. When it comes to value, they don't' come up very often and when they do, they go for a premium. Especially in nice condition.
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Also, I wonder if there is some relationship between the complexity of the 51 & 52 I originally posted, and your offering of the 55

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Your fault......your mentioning "tinkering" and "engineering" is what made me think of the 55.

I disassembled, cleaned and restored one for a friend of mine and I had a lot of fun with it and the manual...more than fun, it was interesting...of course, I played with it for a couple of weeks on different wood...liked it but it does take a bit to set it up properly. Luckily the manual did a much better job than any of today's manuals.

Good luck and have fun restoring what you find...that's what it's all about anyway...
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@JGC John...just remembered an interesting site to help with your researching... The Superior Works

Interesting site and read...see the Patrick's Blood & Gore section...
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May I suggest a Stanley 55 to satisfy that itch...?
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Funny you should mention the 55, but look what I found today ...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/building-r...73bb7019cf-001

For a ball park conversion NZ$ 1.00 = US$ 0.66
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does it have the 55 cutters that go w/ it???...
if not, the cost of them will make your nose bleed...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Funny you should mention the 55, but look what I found today ...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/building-r...73bb7019cf-001

For a ball park conversion NZ$ 1.00 = US$ 0.66


They do come up from time to time...The finish will be tough to restore on this one and it's missing the front foot...won't work well without it for some profiles.

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@Stick468; I have no idea, but I'd assume that what you see is what you get. TBH, I didn't know such a thing existed until Nick mentioned it ...

@Nickp obviously this was one of those rare times, and despite the fact the it seems to be incomplete, the price it realised was almost enough to make my nose bleed ...

Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to share the image directly from my Google drive, but the closing price on the plane was around US$140

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For my $0.10 worth, I think a huge part of the attraction of the older hand tools is their simplicity. If you look at something along the lines of a Stanley #4, it really is a very, very simple machine, but yet very effective, especially in the hands of someone who actually knows what they're doing (ie, not me).

However, to me, and from a 21st century perspective, the #55 looks like a complete nightmare. Even putting the cost of the parts to one side, just trying to set the thing up must have taken a great deal of skill and then there's the time taken to develop some sort of control with the thing, so I'm happy to leave them for the collectors.

Thanks for the suggestion Nickp, but for mouldings, I'll stick with my mains voltage plunge router, thank you very much ...
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For my $0.10 worth, I think a huge part of the attraction of the older hand tools is their simplicity. If you look at something along the lines of a Stanley #4, it really is a very, very simple machine, but yet very effective, especially in the hands of someone who actually knows what they're doing (ie, not me).

However, to me, and from a 21st century perspective, the #55 looks like a complete nightmare. Even putting the cost of the parts to one side, just trying to set the thing up must have taken a great deal of skill and then there's the time taken to develop some sort of control with the thing, so I'm happy to leave them for the collectors.

Thanks for the suggestion Nickp, but for mouldings, I'll stick with my mains voltage plunge router, thank you very much ...


You obviously read the Blood & Gore section... Yeah, it's a bit of a hassle to set it up. I had fun playing with the one I restored but I wouldn't want to use it on a daily basis...
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