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I broke out my scroll saw yesterday after several months and I find nothing has changed. I can't believe following a line with a small blade can be so exasperating. I fooled around with it for an hour or two and once again decided scroll sawing isn't an art I am going to pursue. I am going to try to sell the darned thing and if I can't I will set it out on the drive near the street and let somebody think they are stealing it. I actually came to the conclusion it takes a certain mentality to become competent with a scroll saw and i just don't have the patience any longer to set for hours pushing a piece of wood around cutting out scroll work. It is sad too because I think of all woodworking themes scroll work is the most beautiful.

Sorry for the rant, but just wanted to get it off my chest and out of my mind.

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Blade's make's the saw. Maybe cheep blade's ?? If you could get some of these Flying Dutchmam blade's . I think they are the best. My opion But their again a real cheep saw will not work very well and than you get down on scrolling finding it hard to do.

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Ken, like with any tool there is a learning curve. Don't give up, just set it aside for a while and go back to it when you are ready to try again. It really helps to work with someone who has experience on the tool you are learning about. They can tell you how to avoid the pitfalls and show you what works best for them. Have you searched for woodworking clubs in your area?

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What scroll saw do Ya have, what type of blades or You using? I fought with my scroll saw and still do but have found a better blade helps alot and my next option is a much better saw, which may come next year sometime....

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Blade's make's the saw. Maybe cheep blade's ?? If you could get some of these Flying Dutchmam blade's . I think they are the best. My opion But their again a real cheep saw will not work very well and than you get down on scrolling finding it hard to do.
Ken : Del have the right idea - that the blades do make the differece as well as a good scrollsaw . I never thought 15 years ago that I'd turn out just loving the scrollsaw like i have either ...........Marshall
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I have both Olson and Flying Dutchman blades in several different types. The times I have tried scrolling I found I had better luck with spiral blades as they weren't quite as frustrating following a line as a flat blade. It is rare that I even have the need for scroll work because most of my woodworking endeavors revolve around the router and saw.

I was trying to cut out my granddaughters name to use as an inlay on a box I am building for her that turned into a scrolling disaster. Yesterday I broke out my Dremel tool with my modified Stew-Mac plunge base and cut it out freehand. Unlike with the scroll saw not once did I cut into the lines and it didn't look like a drunk had cut it out. I envisioned writing the name out on a piece of paper with a pencil to guide the Dremel and it turned out nearly perfect. What I thought would be a problem is the name is in script with all the letters joined. I cut it out first with a piece of scrap to get a feel for the cutting reaction in the turns and it actually was quite like pencil and paper.

Anyhow thanks for all the advice and I may try scrolling again, but not any time soon. By using the Dremel I have what wanted and have several projects to work on that doesn't require the scroll saw.

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Don't give up on the scroll saw,the blade is the real key,put the round blade back in your blade box and pull out one of the SMALL FD blades, they will dull real quick so you need to stop the machine and tighten it up right after you use it for a little bit,they will wonder off the line easy once they get dull and hot and move off to the right ,so you need to keep that in mind..


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I have both Olson and Flying Dutchman blades in several different types. The times I have tried scrolling I found I had better luck with spiral blades as they weren't quite as frustrating following a line as a flat blade. It is rare that I even have the need for scroll work because most of my woodworking endeavors revolve around the router and saw.

I was trying to cut out my granddaughters name to use as an inlay on a box I am building for her that turned into a scrolling disaster. Yesterday I broke out my Dremel tool with my modified Stew-Mac plunge base and cut it out freehand. Unlike with the scroll saw not once did I cut into the lines and it didn't look like a drunk had cut it out. I envisioned writing the name out on a piece of paper with a pencil to guide the Dremel and it turned out nearly perfect. What I thought would be a problem is the name is in script with all the letters joined. I cut it out first with a piece of scrap to get a feel for the cutting reaction in the turns and it actually was quite like pencil and paper.

Anyhow thanks for all the advice and I may try scrolling again, but not any time soon. By using the Dremel I have what wanted and have several projects to work on that doesn't require the scroll saw.



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[quote=ken bee;260815]i have both olson and flying dutchman blades in several different types. The times i have tried scrolling i found i had better luck with spiral blades as they weren't quite as frustrating following a line as a flat blade. It is rare that i even have the need for scroll work because most of my woodworking endeavors revolve around the router and saw.

I was trying to cut out my granddaughters name to use as an inlay on a box i am building for her that turned into a scrolling disaster. Yesterday i broke out my dremel tool with my modified stew-mac plunge base and cut it out freehand. Unlike with the scroll saw not once did i cut into the lines and it didn't look like a drunk had cut it out. I envisioned writing the name out on a piece of paper with a pencil to guide the dremel and it turned out nearly perfect. What i thought would be a problem is the name is in script with all the letters joined. I cut it out first with a piece of scrap to get a feel for the cutting reaction in the turns and it actually was quite like pencil and paper.
[i][b] Ken those good patterns mean a lot when scrolling , this name plate pattern was made from steve good's pattern printer at his site . All you have to do is download it for free and if you want you can make a donation - i did for i use it a lot . And he has a great number of other patterns for free , these would be good for practice in case you change your mind ........mb
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Ken,
put a blade in (olsons work best for me) cut a scrap piece without a pattern. Make a few wild curves then try to follow parallel to the line you cut. With no pattern, there's no messing up, so no frustration. After a few tries you'll get the feel for what the blade wants to do.

My biggest issue is sometimes the blade, pattern line and blade shadow start to blend together. I try to print in red and use good lighting.

All it will take is one success to keep you going, hang in there!

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