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I got a Woodcraft catalog yesterday and they had a Jet scroll saw for sale. I haven't seen a Jet SS before. Is this new for them? Jet makes some pretty good stuff so I guess this will not be any different.

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I've seen the ads, but not actually found one of the saws to look over well and try using yet. I do a lot of scroll sawing, mostly very small compound cutting, and I also teach and demonstrate scroll sawing and power carving. One big turn-off for me is that long slot in the table. I would also like to try the blade grips on an actual #1 or 1/0 blade or smaller to see how easy to use, simple in design, and how well they grip the blade. These companies should put an expert in the field on their design team as a consultant, if they want to make tools that we will purchase and use. I'm in the market for a better saw than what I have (DeWalt 788 type 1) and am leaning toward an Excalibur. I like the look of the Jet, except for the table slot. What I frequently cut will get caught in that slot and I'll ruin it. Of course, I could make a zero clearance table cover for it, but to me, the slot shouldn't be there in the first place.

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Good comments Charley.

I think this is where your expertise should come into play and you should let Jet know of this shortcoming. If we don't let the manufacturers know that they have messed up, they'll think they are doing a good job.

Last scroll saw I had was a Delta and I rarely ever used it. Got rid of it and haven't bought another one since.

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I've seen the ads, but not actually found one of the saws to look over well and try using yet. I do a lot of scroll sawing, mostly very small compound cutting, and I also teach and demonstrate scroll sawing and power carving. One big turn-off for me is that long slot in the table. I would also like to try the blade grips on an actual #1 or 1/0 blade or smaller to see how easy to use, simple in design, and how well they grip the blade. These companies should put an expert in the field on their design team as a consultant, if they want to make tools that we will purchase and use. I'm in the market for a better saw than what I have (DeWalt 788 type 1) and am leaning toward an Excalibur. I like the look of the Jet, except for the table slot. What I frequently cut will get caught in that slot and I'll ruin it. Of course, I could make a zero clearance table cover for it, but to me, the slot shouldn't be there in the first place.



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Charley I understand what your saying about the wide slot. It seems that most woodworking machines have big slots. Like on a tablesaw small pieces can fall into the slot in the throat plate and be dangerous.

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Charley I understand what your saying about the wide slot. It seems that most woodworking machines have big slots. Like on a tablesaw small pieces can fall into the slot in the throat plate and be dangerous.
But a scroll saw is intended to cut very precise little pieces, so they should come with a table that won't catch the piece as you rotate it to make very small precise curved cuts. The center hole should be just large enough to keep the blade from hitting if you apply too much feed pressure and to allow easy and quick blade changing.

I make 1 1/4" high compound cut reindeer every year (going on season 7) to give away as ear rings, and 3 larger sizes of reindeer as well. I can do the smallest ones on a DeWalt 788 in about 12 minutes, but I doubt that I can do it on the Jet. The second photo shows the four sizes that I make. The largest is about 3 1/2" high and take me about 8 minutes to cut. I made and gave away 428 of the largest size this past Christmas Season and 34 pair of ear rings. They are very popular.

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Wow! Charley I envy your exceptional scroll saw skills. I just have an inexpensive Porter-Cable scroll saw and learned very quickly that I needed to add a zero clearance table to cut the small stuff. Thanks for the good advice on saw selection. Now, how about a how-to for making compound cuts?

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Those reindeer sculptures are delightful. I'd love to have one of them on display. Have you ever thought of marketing them to model railroaders? Maybe start with an illustrated article on making them with a link to a youtube video of the process. Submit it to a railroading magazine. Sell them for 18-24 bucks for a set of 2 or 3. Put them under a glass dome mounted on a multi level mini platform covered with green flocking. I teach marketing and I can't help thinking about that whenever I see something really neat. Make and sell only what you enjoy making.

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. I made and gave away 428 of the largest size this past Christmas Season and 34 pair of ear rings.
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Charley, you are a mad man! My poor eyes couldn't focus long enough to make those little reindeer in such quantities. I bet you free hand them all now.

My delta has a sort of wide opening, but I can cover it with a sacrificial piece of hardboard when I need zero clearance. I made a zero clearance insert before, but it was more trouble than it is worth.

To the original question, it looks a lot like an Excalibur saw, would like to see one in person. I have a love/hate relationship with JET, they have a lot of decent products, but on their industrial tool side the customer service is lacking. The big Jet metal lathe we have at work was not supported for parts 8 years after purchase. Not something you expect for a $15000 piece of hardware.

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Wow! Charley I envy your exceptional scroll saw skills. I just have an inexpensive Porter-Cable scroll saw and learned very quickly that I needed to add a zero clearance table to cut the small stuff. Thanks for the good advice on saw selection. Now, how about a how-to for making compound cuts?
Oliver take a look at Charlies uploads. You will see some neat stuff.

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Here is a link to the post that I made back around Christmas 2015 regarding the making of these reindeer.

http://www.routerforums.com/wood-scr...ce-august.html

In it you will find pictures showing the clamp that I use (compound or 3D cutting requires a clamp), sitting on my DeWalt saw, and a post to this thread showing a full 8 1/2 X 11 sheet of the reindeer patterns. The smaller reindeer are just re-sized versions of this same pattern. It's not an original, but one that I downloaded from Mathias Wandel's Woodworking for engineers website and cleaned up a little. If you are interested in making these, please read that whole post. Then, if you have any further questions I will be happy to answer them.

It would be great if I could get more woodworkers interested in spreading the Christmas Spirit by making and giving away the reindeer like I do. This coming Christmas 2016 will be my seventh year doing this. Many of the restaurants and businesses that I frequent in my area have put the ones that I have given to sales people and waitresses on display, usually on a high shelf so they can be seen year round. I always tell the recipients that "reindeer can fly, so "don't leave him laying around in public, or he might fly away". Many take them home, tie a ribbon around their necks, and hang them from their tree. Now that I've given so many away and many are on display around here, when I give a reindeer to someone, they sometimes say "so you're the one who makes these". I enjoy Christmas, and giving these away to anyone (usually women - most men don't appreciate them) who helps me in some way during the Christmas Season gets one. After they have waited on me I hold out my hand, palm down with a reindeer in it, and I wish them a "Very Merry Christmas". When they hold out their hand to me I drop the reindeer into their hand. It always seems to brighten their day. I've almost always been thanked, sometimes hugged, and occasionally kissed on the cheek when I give one away. I only offer one to a child if they are about 8 or older, for safety reasons, and only with the permission of a parent. In most cases, you have to do something for me, like demonstrate or sell me something, or serve me a meal to get one.

I've had two more heart surgeries back in April and have become quite limited in what I can do now. I tire very easily now, so I doubt that I'll be able to beat the quantity that I made last year, but I'm about to start making them again for this coming Christmas Season 2016. Is anyone else out there willing to carry this tradition on for me?

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