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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-11-2009, 11:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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Unhappy Baltic Birch Plywood Issue - Please Advise

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I am relatively new to the woodworking industry and I have a somewhat awkward concern.

Well story begins when I bought a crate of 3/4 Inch Baltic Birch Plywood BB/C Grade. Unfortunately when I was unloading the crate from my pickup truck it fell on one side and fell pretty hard (1 ton - 27 Sheets). I got it to warehouse and decided to unpack on a next day since it was too late and I was too tired. When I came back next day and unpacked plywood from crate I was happy to see that quality of plywood is much better than I have expected and a good BB side has immaculate texture and of superb quality. My excitement lasted up until I saw the other end of the sheet where yellow streaks on a face of the ply were extending about 10 inches in to the ply. (Please see attached pictures-color is not really correct but you can see what I am talking about). Unfortunately the end of sheet with streaks is the same side that fell down from the truck. When I inspected the rest of 26 sheets I saw the same on all of them.

My question is, since many of you deal with Baltic Birch what would you say about those streaks? Is this something normal and can be expected or it's a direct damage from the fall? I would really appreciate your expert advice and share of knowledge. Again I am new to this so I have nothing to rely on in this matter.

Thank you very much for your help.
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Unless the ground was wet/muddy/etc., the falling and the streaking on THAT side is just coincidence, IMO. Do you know (were you told) that it WASN'T made that way, that the sheets were not discolored? Was the pricing discounted because the sheets had a little discoloration?

Just wondering............
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I think Mark is correct. Dropping them wouldn't give that kind of streaking. Are the patterns of the streaks the same on each sheet? like booking. That would tell you if it was something in the wood. Some natural streaking is allowed on one side, but I've never seen that much before, and it don’t look natural, looks like glue streaking to me or like the bundle was stood on end in something. And we know they don’t store plywood on end. If you don't mind telling us, what did they charge you per sheet? That would help us know if it was discounted or not. Those look like 4 x 8 sheets, don’t think I've seen true Baltic plywood that wasn't metric. How many layers does it have?
In any case, our opinion is not going to help you much. I would call the seller, that’s a big order; he should make it good unless it was marked down! They will not want to lose a big buyer like you. Most of us can only get 3-4 sheets at a time. Let us know how it turns out.
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I think Mark is correct. Dropping them wouldn't give that kind of streaking. Are the patterns of the streaks the same on each sheet? like booking. That would tell you if it was something in the wood. Some natural streaking is allowed on one side, but I've never seen that much before, and it donít look natural, looks like glue streaking to me or like the bundle was stood on end in something. And we know they donít store plywood on end. If you don't mind telling us, what did they charge you per sheet? That would help us know if it was discounted or not. Those look like 4 x 8 sheets, donít think I've seen true Baltic plywood that wasn't metric. How many layers does it have?
In any case, our opinion is not going to help you much. I would call the seller, thatís a big order; he should make it good unless it was marked down! They will not want to lose a big buyer like you. Most of us can only get 3-4 sheets at a time. Let us know how it turns out.
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Well the whole bundle has this same streaking all 27 sheets. This is a 3/4" 4x8
13ply. Side that is shown is BB and other side is C and it does not have those streaks, that is why I freaked out. Well I will address my manufacturer since this bundle came a long way from Russia. As for pricing I can say only one thing is that I just started Birch Plywood Import business (accidentaly LOL and I am on a steep learning curve) at this point I am selling BB/C 3/4" 4x8 at $38 per sheet. In total I have 27 crates 1/2 and 3/4 c/c cp/c bb/c b/bb that came in on a first shipment, I have not unpacked all of them, but looks like majority of other crates are fine. Well I guess rule of first pancake is at work in my case also. If you do not mind my question, what is baltic birch sells for in your area(wholesale wise)?

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I would be making a phone call if it were me.
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I agree with the above posts...especially about making a phone call. Geez, it almost looks like the top veneer has a tapered runoff ?!?! I work with the stuff, but I don't make the stuff....I'd be curious enough to run a mic on the good end, then on the end in question to see if there's a difference. Regardless, you've got 27 sheets of 4x7 now, not 4x8.
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Oh I bet your right about the taper. Definitely looks like they used paper thin veneer on a thickness tapered board and ran it through a sander.
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$38 a sheet????? Geez I paid that much for a 2x4 piece at HD and it was almost C/C grade - terrible voids and patches. I wouldn't buy anymore there. I haven't found anyone in my area that sells 4x8 sheets, best is 5x5. Maybe I could open a franchise for you here in Canada???

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About $45+ a sheet here.
I wonder if the wood can be bleached to get rid of the discoloration.

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