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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old 09-14-2014, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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Default Time to collect some dust...

So, it's time to take care of all that dust making my *I wont say where I put the saw" uninhabitable.

My saw (DW745) has a little tube that I supposed is used to put there a hose from a vacuum.. but, since I'm totally new to this, I'd like to know if is only that or there is something else I should consider before doing that.

I googled a bit and there are some complex thingies called cyclone, and some woodworkers have also big-flashy-expensive setups to collect dust... wont work for me.

Any help is appreciated!.
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Do you just have a shop vac for dust collection?
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No, I didn't buy anything yet, I try to understand what to buy first .
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Try a Dust Deputy, inexpensive, really, and works well.
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My shop is my garage so space was a primary consideration. I purchased the Dust Right components from Rockler, a 15 gallon fiber drum from Amazon and used a 1 HP dust collector from Harbor Freight to build a self contained unit that I store under the table saw wing when not in use. I have since built a roll around dolly for it using the wheels that came with the HF dust collector. It works pretty well.

Rockler recommends a larger drum size than I chose so I get more dust in the Harbor Freight collection bag than I would like but it still captures the majority of dust in the drum. I chose to mount the dust collection unit on the drum but it could be kept separate or you can use a shop vac to drive it. The setup in the picture is for my router. I have a 4" collector port on the TS so I have a 4" hose setup for that.
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Would be there any problem to just connect the hose of the vacuum to the dust pipe of the saw?.

@rich nice setup!, no idea what to buy to make one of those though.
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Rockler also has a number of various sized adapter, reduction, etc. goodies. Research 'blast gates', also a Rockler item. You can keep everything hooked up, and only open the blast gate for the tool you are using. Air velocity is what carries the particles, not volume. That drum you have can be configured to act as a cyclone trap. Keeps most of the draw in there, so your fine filters don't clog up so often.
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Buenos Aires must have some fairly well stocked equipment suppliers, so what's available in the way of dust collectors there?
It doesn't really help you if we suggest specific US/Canadian made products if you can't get your hands on them(?).
When we speak about dust collectors this is the type of thing we're talking about...
Dust Collectors : KMS Tools & Equipment from Vancouver BC, Largest selection of tools in Canada
When they refer to 'Dust Deputy, or cyclones, they're really just an accessory to do a better job of controlling the finer particles (not putting them back into the air you're breathing).
This is one of the classic homebuilds...
J. Phil Thien's Cyclone Separator Lid w/ the Thien Cyclone Separator Baffle
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Now I'm beginning to understand what a dust collector is, it has nothing to do with a shop vac , they are on another level. Money wise too!.

So, there is little I can do with a shop vac right?, any other alternatives?, the MDF is killing me when I use the table saw, I have to find a way to remove the most I can at least.
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Now I'm beggining to understand what a dust collector is, it has nothing to do with a shop vac , they are on another level. Money wise too!.

So, there is little I can do with a shop vac right?, any other alternatives?, the MDF is killing me when I use the table saw, I have to find a way to remove the most I can at least.
I am not familiar with your saw. Does it have a contained lower part where the dust piles up, or does it simply fall to the floor?

A table saw doesn't usually produce a lot of dust unless a dado blade is being used. The big dust makers are the planers, joiners and drum sanders.

I have two different dust collection set ups in my one car garage!
1) Shop vac connected to a Dust Deputy. The majority of dust or shavings drop out into the bucket the DD is mounted on. The filter inside the shop vac rarely gets filled or plugged. The cyclonic action simply makes the heavier than air particles drop out of the stream.

2) I have a 2 horsepower Harbor Freight dust collector with a drum upstream of it with the Thien separator inside of it. Same principle, the drop out and only the fine stuff make it through the blower into the filter. The filter is made by Wynn Environmental and is a .5 something or other, which means it filters the air the best possible.

I made the Thien separator from mdf and a pair of Rockler connectors.

I have the HF dust collector connected to a manifold with a pair of blast gates. One is connected to my table saw. The other blast gate allows me to hook up a 4 inch hose to the planer, sander or the joiner.

The shop vac also has a couple of smaller blast gates. One is connected to the dust port on the miter saw. The other gate is available so I can connect a hose to the router table fence dust port or to the random orbital sander or the pocket hole jig.

Here are a few pictures for you to look at.

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