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Anyone here turn pens? Any hints, tips, or tricks that you have found work better than others? Different finish or polishing methods?

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Harry i believe had a tutorial on finishing pens with super glue.
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Harry i believe had a tutorial on finishing pens with super glue.
Thanks John. Yes, I watched Harry's video, and LOTS of other ones as well. I've done a couple pens, and then SWMBO wanted a seam ripper, so did one of those as well when I was at Mike's on Sunday. I'm a bit disappointed in the finish on the seam ripper... pen's all turned out nice and shiny. The seam ripper started out that way, but it's dulled now for some reason.

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@BrianS : Did you use super glue on the seam ripper? Are you using any polish after the glue? I have he'd glue cloud up if I put on to much. I use two different super glues to finish with. One thin and one thicker. I get it from Woods and Whimmies. They have a web site.

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@BrianS : Did you use super glue on the seam ripper? Are you using any polish after the glue? I have he'd glue cloud up if I put on to much. I use two different super glues to finish with. One thin and one thicker. I get it from Woods and Whimmies. They have a web site.
Hi Richard. Yes, super glue, or friction polish with CA, which I understand to be the same thing. Several coats, rubbed until I felt the heat. No polish other than that. The same process I followed when I made the pens.

I now have a list of projects, (Imagine!!) so I want to find out what I did, or maybe did NOT do, to loose the shine on the finish. Would the CA maybe be too old?

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I make 40 to 50 pens a year and almost as many seam rippers. I use CA glue on most finishes, after applying several thin coats (6 to 10) I sand them with 400 grit mesh and then run through with the wet sanding pads that go from 1200 to 12000 grit and then Meguiar's G12310 PlastX Clear Plastic Cleaner & Polish for headlights. Then I use a buffing wheel mounted on my lathe and a buffing rouge. I also use EEE-Ultra Shine Paste Wax and Shellawax Cream for a softer sheen. I make most of my pens using deer antler, also do some with acrylic pen blanks. There is a demand now for wood that has just started this year, I use several different wood species The most time consuming part is getting a good smooth finish on the deer antler. I sell my pens through one of the gift shops in town to tourist and they want the deer antler because it is something that is not a typical item where they may be from.

The reason you are getting the dull finish using CA glue, you must let each layer dry fully. If it s not fully dry between coats it will shine up nicely but after the underlying coats dry fully it causes them to become dull. I only do the first couple of coats with CA medium and make sure they are fully dry and then follow up with CA Thin for the remainder coats.

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I do some pen turning, but my wife is the pro pen turner around here. I got a lot of good information from: Kurt Hertzog Home. Scroll through his articles that were printed in Woodturning Design Magazine. They are on his site and gave me lots of hints and ideas. I usually use Shelawax for a finish, but it's not as durable as CA glue. Have fun and good luck with your pen turning.

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I make 40 to 50 pens a year and almost as many seam rippers. I use CA glue on most finishes, after applying several thin coats (6 to 10) I sand them with 400 grit mesh and then run through with the wet sanding pads that go from 1200 to 12000 grit and then Meguiar's G12310 PlastX Clear Plastic Cleaner & Polish for headlights. Then I use a buffing wheel mounted on my lathe and a buffing rouge. I also use EEE-Ultra Shine Paste Wax and Shellawax Cream for a softer sheen. I make most of my pens using deer antler, also do some with acrylic pen blanks. There is a demand now for wood that has just started this year, I use several different wood species The most time consuming part is getting a good smooth finish on the deer antler. I sell my pens through one of the gift shops in town to tourist and they want the deer antler because it is something that is not a typical item where they may be from.

The reason you are getting the dull finish using CA glue, you must let each layer dry fully. If it s not fully dry between coats it will shine up nicely but after the underlying coats dry fully it causes them to become dull. I only do the first couple of coats with CA medium and make sure they are fully dry and then follow up with CA Thin for the remainder coats.

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Thanks Bruce. That would probably explain the dull finish then... I'm sure I didn't wait near long enough for each coat to dry. In a video Harrysin posted a while back, he was using an accelerator in a spray can. Would that speed the process up any?

And, since you mentioned seam rippers, what kits have you found to be the best? I purchased the one I did from Woodcraft, and the nylon insert that holds the blade of the ripper in place doesn't seem to tighten up enough. The blade moves in it.

I will keep your process in mind when I turn the next one.

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I do some pen turning, but my wife is the pro pen turner around here. I got a lot of good information from: Kurt Hertzog Home. Scroll through his articles that were printed in Woodturning Design Magazine. They are on his site and gave me lots of hints and ideas. I usually use Shelawax for a finish, but it's not as durable as CA glue. Have fun and good luck with your pen turning.

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Thank you Tom. WoW, took a quick look at Kurt's page. LOTS of information there..

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Brian, I use spray accelerator between coats. And like Cad-Man island between coats of glue. I polish up to 12000. On the last coat. The trick is to play around, keep notes and find what works for you. I don't think it is an exact science.
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