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I bit the bullet on a Rikon 70-220vsr last month--nice. I went back & forth on that or the Nova Comet II--ultimately the 3+ inches of quill travel on the tail stock with the Rikon won. I drill pen blanks on my lathe, and with my prior lathe I had to move the tail stock at least twice to drill a 3" blank (drill chuck cost me nearly an inch on the Delta self eject stop). Unfortunately, I paid $650 for the 220, two weeks later it was $500 for Thanksgiving weekend. Don't regret missing the savings, but would have been nice to have the extra money in MY pocket!!
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I bought the same one for $500.00 last weekend. I had the Rikon 70-100 then went with the Delta 46-460, The speed controller went after a few months and it took nearly 4 months to get it fixed...never a Delta again. I then went to a Powermatic 3520 B (over 3 grand) but quickly sold that for a small profit and went back to the Rikon. For the money Rikon can't be beat. They have one of the best warranties going and stand by their product. When shopping for a tool make sure that the electronics and the motor are covered for as long as possible. It's impossible to fix electronics if the parts are no longer available. That is why I always sell when the warranty is up and buy new.
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I just watched a video on the 70-100 and I am impressed with the ease of setting up and speed changes. My AMT has a simple speed changing process that I had to design (it didn't come with a motor or motor mount, so, I had to dream up a system to index the motor myself).

I like the idea of the MT on the head and tailstocks. I am wondering if my new chuck will allow me to use the spur center on the headstock so I don't have to remove it to make quick shoulders on my blanks. I'll have to do some measuring. Can you tell me the diameter of the stock spur center that comes with the Rikon?
It comes with a #2 MT spur center. You have to always remove the chuck to install the spur center. You can put the wood worm screw into the chuck and attach it to the wood blank.
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I bought the same one for $500.00 last weekend. I had the Rikon 70-100 then went with the Delta 46-460, The speed controller went after a few months and it took nearly 4 months to get it fixed...never a Delta again. I then went to a Powermatic 3520 B (over 3 grand) but quickly sold that for a small profit and went back to the Rikon. For the money Rikon can't be beat. They have one of the best warranties going and stand by their product. When shopping for a tool make sure that the electronics and the motor are covered for as long as possible. It's impossible to fix electronics if the parts are no longer available. That is why I always sell when the warranty is up and buy new.
I got a Delta 46-460 just over a year ago, and speed controller failed in early November. Figured it would take a while to get back, even under warranty so I picked up the Rikon. Been using the Delta to buff with as the random variable speed doesn't have much negative effect on that. Got another 25-30 pens to make by early January, then I'll drop the Delta off for repair. Should be back in time for summer!!
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post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-11-2017, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone for the input. I'm going to do some additional research (sometimes referred to procrastination) before I plunk down $ for this. In the meantime I am going to try to upgrade or adapt the AMT tool rest holder to be able to eliminate the hardwood spacer I rigged up. Some type of S shaped 5/8" round stock welded to the bottom of the Rockler tool rests I bought should work. Though those rests are well made they are definitely not going to work well with the AMT with such short posts. In addition I think I will move the lathe "foot" on the tail end toward the center of the two bars and then make up a simple foot to hold the tail end firm to the workbench. If I ever want to turn long spindles I can just move it back. The tool rest frame will not move past the foot on the AMT (attached a jpeg of the model, don't laugh too hard, it works!)
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I've made up my mind and decided to go with the Rikon 70-100. I considered the 70-220 and Nova Comet II, but, after researching and reading comments on many supplier's sites I read too many problems with electronics boards, cables, etc. I don't need that headache. Too many electronic devices in my life have given me grief. Although the variable speed would be convenient I see myself going from extreme slow to 2000+ rpm constantly for roughing to shaping to finishing steps. Most of those lathes will require a belt/pulley change to get that change anyway. I really dont' buy that sanding in reverse argument. I have had no problem eliminating lines on my AMT (which as some of you know is not anywhere near a high end machine). It's all about patience.

As my Dad always said, "You have more time than money", so, manual speed changes are in my future. While I considered the Central Machinery option (10x18) to save some serious cash I am sold on the fit and finish concept. The easier speed changes are also a big consideration with the 70-100 vs the CM 10x18.

Most of what I am going to be doing is small ornaments and other nick knacks as gifts and decoration. I don't see me turning table or chair legs ever again, I prefer the look of the tapered square legs I have built using my jointer. More traditional look IMO.

Thanks for all the suggestions and input. I'll be visiting with you'se guys again.

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