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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-20-2019, 09:31 AM Thread Starter
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A few months ago, I purchased a used Jet JTAS-10-1/3 Tilting Arbor Table Saw Model M-708510. (Right tilting)

The owner was selling it at a reasonable price as he said it had a slight vibration. Upon inspection, I concluded the bearings on the motor were probably at fault so I replaced the bearings and the motor hummed smoothly.

I put the machine back together and long story short found that the arbor that was installed was for a left tilting saw. I contacted the seller and he admitted the original arbor shaft had been replaced. He offered to refund my money or reduce the price. I thought the saw was worth what I paid and that I could replace the arbor.

After several weeks searching the internet for the correct arbor shaft (The part is no longer available from Jet) I finally found an arbor shaft that matched the dimension of the shaft I had so I purchased it and installed it, saw now work great.

The other day I saw the left tilt arbor shaft sitting in a box. Out of curiosity I logged onto the Jet site to see if this arbor shaft was available. According to Jet and eReplacement--it is no longer available. Knowing how frustrated I was searching for an arbor shaft, I thought I should post.

I think this is part number JTAS10L-104; although my research found that several brands of table saws use a similar arbor shaft. I am including a picture of the left tilting arbor shaft with measurements.

If you or someone you know is in need of an arbor shaft, please contact me.
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So if I understand correctly, the one you removed must have had the threads going the wrong way for tightening the blade. In other words the blade could loosen while cutting. It is a good thing that you found this out.
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So if I understand correctly, the one you removed must have had the threads going the wrong way for tightening the blade. In other words the blade could loosen while cutting. It is a good thing that you found this out.
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Good point Herb. Right tilt saws have left hand thread for that reason which means left tilt saws should have standard right hand thread.
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Herb,

Yes, this one has "normal" threads that tighten when turned clockwise (righty tighty).

On a right tilt saw the placement of the motor makes it necessary for the threads to be opposite.

I have messed with several used table saws and always make certain I am a long distance from the saw when I first turn it on with a blade installed. I knew something was amiss when I first installed the arbor nut.

You probalby remember that in the olden days many saws only had one wrench. To remove a blade a piece of scrap wood would be lodged against the blade teeth to prevent it from turuning and then the wrench on the arbor nut would loosen the nut. So the arbor nut is always loosened by turning toward the front of the saw. This allows the rotation of the arbor shaft to always tighten the arbor nut.
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My second table saw was an inherited 8" saw with an aluminum table that I think came from Montgomery Ward. It was a contractor style saw with a 1 hp 3450 rpm induction motor hanging on the back of it. It was a terribly poor quality saw that required checking the wind direction and speed, the levelness of the saw, and to see if any ghosts were in the area before making a cut, but even then, no two cut pieces cut came out straight or the same width. As soon as I could afford a better saw, this one went to the scrap yard.

One day while I had it I got the bright idea to put an electrical brake on it to stop the motor from coasting when I shut it off. Being an EE I knew what needed to be done to make an electrical brake for it. I installed a three position switch with Off being the center position. One way ran the motor normally and the opposite way was spring return to the center off position. On this spring return side of the switch I installed a diode rectifier circuit that applied 150 VDC to the motor whenever I pushed the switch to that position. A brief DC power pulse on an induction motor will stop the motor from spinning very quickly, and not damage the motor.

Well, the first time that I activated this brake, the saw did indeed stop the motor very quickly, probably in less than a revolution, but then there was a rattling sound. The quick stop had unscrewed the blade nut several turns and the blade was spinning free on the shaft. Not spinning fast, but still turning and wobbling.

Once I figured out what had happened, I put a low value, high wattage resistor in series with the diode circuit, so the brake wouldn't be quite as effective, but I still had to make certain that the arbor nut was good and tight whenever I changed the blade, or this would happen again.

I haven't bothered to try this on any of the saws that I've owned since this one, because about the same time I built a dedicated shop and could lock it and the power to it to keep my kids out and away from my tools, so having a saw brake became less important to me.

So the moral of my story -

Having the arbor and nut threaded correctly for the right or left tilt design of the saw is very necessary and helps keep the arbor nut tight against the blade, but only if you don't try to stop the motor too quickly. If you install the incorrect arbor for the kind of saw, you will have the same problem that I did with my brake. If it's wrong, every time you try to cut a board and put a load on the blade the arbor nut will loosen and the blade will stop spinning.

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