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I took the plunge today and decided to fix my garage and make it into a well lit shop. I wanted to insulate the attic space so I used the "blue poly" we all know how that happen as a vapour vapour. I had to remove the existing OSB plywood the previous owner had put up because he failed to install a vapour barrier or insulate.

I want the entire floor space to be lit properly. The garage is 20' x 24'. I plan on using 8 low wattage fluorescent fixtures (2' x 4") The problem is the garage door when it opens will interfere with the lights if I install them on the ceiling over top the drywall.

To rectify this problem I have decided to install the lights in between the rafters. The garage is stick framed with 2 x 6 lumber. I will build boxes for all 8 fixtures to allow me to slide them up in between the rafters so I can mount the lights afterwords. I will make sure to allow for some air circulation due to heat build up but my research on the new thinner fluorescent bulbs give off hardly any heat so it should not be a concern.

So now I will have to buy (8) 2' x 4' fluorescent fixtures with new 14/2 wire. Once I get the boxes built I can then run the wire and then insulate the ceiling complete with vapour barrier

I plan on using drywall and doing a rough mud and tape. Not sure if I want to paint the ceiling or spray or leave it as is. Time will tell I guess.

Anyway here are a few shots of what I did today.
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I wish you were closer, Dan. I was tripping over some 4' troffer fixtures, this afternoon. That will be a big improvement for your work area. Make sure you realy pile the insulation up there. Do you heat that space in the winter?

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I wish you were closer, Dan. I was tripping over some 4' troffer fixtures, this afternoon. That will be a big improvement for your work area. Make sure you realy pile the insulation up there. Do you heat that space in the winter?
That is my plan to heat it next winter. Right now I am putting in R-19. I know I should put R-40 but its better than nothing. The walls are 2x4 studs.

I got lights tonight at RONA for $20 each 2x4 that hang. The plan is to install a 2x4 across the rafter and then build a box and use "O" rings on a screw and screw (1) at each end of the light to hang them in between the rafters so they just stick below the ceiling so I can still open the garage door.

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I took the plunge today and decided to fix my garage and make it into a well lit shop. I wanted to insulate the attic space so I used the "blue poly" we all know how that happen as a vapour vapour. I had to remove the existing OSB plywood the previous owner had put up because he failed to install a vapour barrier or insulate.

I want the entire floor space to be lit properly. The garage is 20' x 24'. I plan on using 8 low wattage fluorescent fixtures (2' x 4") The problem is the garage door when it opens will interfere with the lights if I install them on the ceiling over top the drywall.

To rectify this problem I have decided to install the lights in between the rafters. The garage is stick framed with 2 x 6 lumber. I will build boxes for all 8 fixtures to allow me to slide them up in between the rafters so I can mount the lights afterwords. I will make sure to allow for some air circulation due to heat build up but my research on the new thinner fluorescent bulbs give off hardly any heat so it should not be a concern.

So now I will have to buy (8) 2' x 4' fluorescent fixtures with new 14/2 wire. Once I get the boxes built I can then run the wire and then insulate the ceiling complete with vapour barrier

I plan on using drywall and doing a rough mud and tape. Not sure if I want to paint the ceiling or spray or leave it as is. Time will tell I guess.

Anyway here are a few shots of what I did today.
Looks like you had your day cut out for you. So of the newer engery saver lights placed along walls as spot like mite help the lighting. Remember, there are tax breaks from the stimuls package.



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You mean mount the flourescents ontol the wall apposed ot the ceiling? Have you tired this? Does it work better?
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Dan,
I think Barry was referring to "spot light" fixtures.
If the flourescent fixtures you have are without a lens cover, these panels make for a good dispersion of light, keep your bulbs cleaner, and will add some safety factor: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...tId=100542281#. I have a few in my basement and they are easy to install. They are made for grid ceilings but can be cut to fit any space.

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I think Barry was referring to "spot light" fixtures.
If the flourescent fixtures you have are without a lens cover, these panels make for a good dispersion of light, keep your bulbs cleaner, and will add some safety factor: Product Information Error Page . I have a few in my basement and they are easy to install. They are made for grid ceilings but can be cut to fit any space.

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Looks like you had your day cut out for you. So of the newer engery saver lights placed along walls as spot like mite help the lighting. Remember, there are tax breaks from the stimuls package.
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I checked for the stimulus program on lighing and it dooes not qualify. I do not think I de-attach garage quailfies either it has to be your main residence.

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Say Dan, don't you ever stop so some poor shumck can catch up?? Goodness you've run me out of time, money and now ideas!!! I sure admire your enthusiasm; if I had half your energy (the joy of being young) I would have been done two months ago with my shop!!

BTW would love to have all the stuff you have in the back ground of you shop, there is a gold mine there!! You said the garage is 24X20, that is a nice size shop, and will the cars stay out all the time? I would assume you have block heaters on them for the winter months. Too bad we don't live closer, I could give you encouragement and you could give me production!!

Noticed how the previous owner put up the particle board, (Under The Joists??) that was brilliant!! Sure is hard to find good help these days!!

On a more serious note, how will you lay the shop out, to sort of make it a flow through the various tools as the wood comes in? I kind of tried that but in the final analyses, it is what it is. I did try to keep the Jet behind all the real dust makers. All but the joiner and planer are more or less on the input side of the collector. Don't know if that makes any difference but it sure doesn't hurt is what I figure. I would like to sheet rock, but I need to have access to the open web trusses for fixing problems to the upstairs plumbing or wiring.

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I took the plunge today and decided to fix my garage and make it into a well lit shop. I wanted to insulate the attic space so I used the "blue poly" we all know how that happen as a vapour vapour. I had to remove the existing OSB plywood the previous owner had put up because he failed to install a vapour barrier or insulate.

I want the entire floor space to be lit properly. The garage is 20' x 24'. I plan on using 8 low wattage fluorescent fixtures (2' x 4") The problem is the garage door when it opens will interfere with the lights if I install them on the ceiling over top the drywall.

To rectify this problem I have decided to install the lights in between the rafters. The garage is stick framed with 2 x 6 lumber. I will build boxes for all 8 fixtures to allow me to slide them up in between the rafters so I can mount the lights afterwords. I will make sure to allow for some air circulation due to heat build up but my research on the new thinner fluorescent bulbs give off hardly any heat so it should not be a concern.

So now I will have to buy (8) 2' x 4' fluorescent fixtures with new 14/2 wire. Once I get the boxes built I can then run the wire and then insulate the ceiling complete with vapour barrier

I plan on using drywall and doing a rough mud and tape. Not sure if I want to paint the ceiling or spray or leave it as is. Time will tell I guess.

Anyway here are a few shots of what I did today.

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hi Dan, i see by the warfarin you been killing some mice or rats. i as an exterminator i saw the warfarin right away. it looks like you just about have your shop full! my poor little shop is ful.

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