Small Router Table

bobj3 · Jun 2, 2007

Hi Cowboy

The only thing that would hold your brain strom back would be the round router base plate is not over size that's to say it's flush with the Alum. base of the router the norm ,it needs to be over size by a min. of 1/2" all the way around the base to support the router when it's in the router table, if you look real close at the snapshots you will see I have 3/8" on the one I used, that was a standard PC base plate because I want to use the 1 3/16 brass guides on the table as well,,,,
You could make a base plate to fit your 1.5hp Ryobi that's over size but I don't know of anyone that makes one as a Fac.item.
They can be tricky to make because they need to be dead on, mounting holes and the center hole for the bits...

I'm not sure what size the Ryobi is but you can buy after market base plates from MLCS that are true.
Router Replacement Bases
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop..._sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/routacc1.html#All_In_One_router_plate_kit_anchor

I also have a Craftsman base plate that is 7" in dia. that will take on the PC brass guides and MilesCraft make a 7 1/2" base plate that will fit most routers BUT it has the TurnLock type guides.., BUT both would work I think on the Ryobi router...

The 7" maybe a just a bit to small but like I said I'm not sure what the Ryobi base is.
Someone will say the plate will spin or turn in place on the router table and that can be fixed easy with a 1/16" roll pin in the router table top and a small slot in the router base plate.

Then one more thing, you must keep in mind is can you drop the router in the router table hole without taking the handles or knobs off the router.

That's why most use the sq. plate..

it gives you room to pop it in the hole easy the norm...the round plate works great for the trim routers because they don't have handles the norm or knobs to hang on to.

The table top I made and the hole I put in is dead on so I didn't need the roll pin to lock it in place or to say keep it from turning.

Drugstore Cowboy said:
Looks GREAT
And raises a brainstorming question for me -
Any reason it would be a less than good idea to use an oversize round base like that to mount a 1.5hp Ryobi --- instead of a large square insert.
My thought is they are both less expensive -- AND --- could be just left on the router when I needed to use it hand held.
Still workin on my first cup of coffee --- so logic may well be flawed ----

Drugstore Cowboy · Jun 2, 2007

HANDLES ---

See -- I KNEW there was something I was overlooking --
Thanks.

I was thinking I had seen some 3rd party bases that were larger than my standard base. My current base is 6" so at 7" - the Craftsman would have been just right EXCEPT for the handles.

Thanks for mentioning that it DID accept PC bushings though.
I just this morning bought a Rockler dovetail jig.
They warned me it might be a trick finding a base that would fit my Ryobi AND accept the PC bushing -- but --
it was already on sale for $75 and they had a promo going that got it down to $49 --- INCLUDING the bit and bushing -- So I couldnt resist.

bobj3 · Jun 2, 2007

Hi Cowboy
You'er Welcome

The plates from MLCS will need to be drilled out to fit your router I'm sure the MilesCfraft TurnLock plate will have the holes you need I'm sure of that and it will come with the bushing that you can use on the Rockler jig... I have all the MilesCraft jigs (products) and the bushing will hold up...

Milescraft 1200 TurnLock Universal Router Base Plate Kit

http://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-12...001GMEOI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2306094-7750249?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1180811759&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-12...001GMEO8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/103-2306094-7750249?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1180811759&sr=8-3

http://www.routerforums.com/jigs-fixtures/2815-jig-milescraft-turnlock.html?highlight=milescraft

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Drugstore Cowboy · Jun 2, 2007

Thanks again -- see edited post above.
I really enjoyed visiting with the guys at Rockler this morning
(my first time in that particular store)
gonna go back and give them a shot at fitting me.
(they suggested I come back WITH my router to be sure)
But if they can't -- I'll swing back by the big orange box and get the Milescraft.

bobj3 · Jun 2, 2007

Hi Cowboy

If you buy it at BOB besure to read the box, they come with the 6" OR the 7" plates and also take note of the price it jumps all over the place from store to store and from outlet to outlet

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Drugstore Cowboy said:
Thanks again -- see edited post above.
I really enjoyed visiting with the guys at Rockler this morning
(my first time in that particular store)
gonna go back and give them a shot at fitting me.
(they suggested I come back WITH my router to be sure)
But if they can't -- I'll swing back by the big orange box and get the Milescraft.

challagan · Jun 3, 2007

Great can't wait to see that DC Bob. I will post pics of the BJ jig. I have eveything cut out. Nothing fancy like yours. Just about the same dimensions but will be for just 1/4 joints as for now that is what most of my boxes are. I have only the 1/4 and 3/8 jigs. I don't think I would ever use the 1/2. Actually I plan to make a 1/8 for making the hinges like you posted... that, they 1/4 is what most of mine will be. Anyway, will take a pic when I get it done. I cut everything out last night. Just have to cut the handle out on the jig saw, router it and assemble.

Corey

bobj3 · Jun 3, 2007

Sorry Bob N.

I didn't want to cover up your new post about the new way to hold the parts for the doing the box joints but I didn't want to start a new post about the same thing.

Just some add on snapshots..

challagan · Jun 3, 2007

That is great BJ and I like how it flips out of the way etc. Neat little box as well. That doesn't look like hardboard for the top

I like it!!

Corey

bobj3 · Jun 3, 2007

Hi Corey

Thanks, it's that nasty hardboard that will nail/dull router bits, it's the suff you see in some cheap cabinets for the walls, etc..

When I flip the vac. pickup down it will suck up the chips that come over the end of the router table like dado's cuts and alike..

Bj

challagan said:
That is great BJ and I like how it flips out of the way etc. Neat little box as well. That doesn't look like hardboard for the top I like it!!

Corey

Bob N · Jun 3, 2007

Bj,

We are friends here and I would have had no problem where ever you wanted to post it.

I love those shots and I am sure seeing a Colt in my very near future. You have got all kinds of neat ideas going on in those pictures..... This is like a bank robber's dream come true

Can I steal some more of those?

challagan · Jun 3, 2007

Bob where do you get the black piece for hooking the hose too?

Corey

bobj3 · Jun 3, 2007

Hi Bud

That one came from http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/ but I did modify it just a bit, it had a base on it so I took the dremel and cut it off and just use the port and some of the support for it.

Then took some 10-32 x 1 1/2" Allen Flat Hds.and put in two holes to hold it in place...to the DC board, b/4 I modify the hose fiting is was to tall and had a base that would stop the chips from going in easy.

challagan said:
Bob where do you get the black piece for hooking the hose too?

Corey

challagan · Jun 3, 2007

Excellent BJ, I will have to add that to my next order. That DC hook up would sure make clean up easier!

Corey

bobj3 · Jun 3, 2007

Hi Corey

Yep it sure will and that's the part I hate

I love woodworking but don't like walking on chips/saw dust and the clean up after...I don't mind cleaning the equipment because I use the air gun, but then I need to clean the floor I do have a vac. pickup for the floor but I just about always need to get the broom out..

Just lazzy I guess but the broom and I are NOT mates

They did show me how to use one in the Navy but I never got the hang of it..
Just like mops

Bj

challagan said:
Excellent BJ, I will have to add that to my next order. That DC hook up would sure make clean up easier!

Corey

bobj3 · Jun 29, 2007

Just a add on item for the new little router table...

The Incra Jig is now part of the new systems, see snapshots below

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challagan · Jun 30, 2007

Hey Bj, damnit I had almost that same vision in adding my Incra to the bench dog but just not enough overhang. That looks great Bj and I bet the colt worked like a breeze. Nice work as usual BJ.

Just came back from Menards.... 711.00 One 36 x 54 Solid Surface Counter Top and 6 2 X 4 plywoods for the new router table and stand

Busy day in the shop tomorrow!

Corey

bobj3 · Jun 30, 2007

Thanks Corey

The Colt is the best router for this type of job

I pull the speed way down and it just took on the dovetail cut easy

just like it was made for the Colt and the the samll table

711.oo WOW that kitchen is going to be nice

they don't give that stuff away do they...

What kind of plywood are you going to use ???
Pocket screws and glue up job or T & G with pockets screws ????

If I recall you got the new OP top and you need to make a cabinet for it and a base cabinet also or will it be all in one cabinet ????

Looks like you are set for Sat. have the boss make some ice tea and keep it coming better yet have her give you a hand making the router table and put the counter top in place Sunday

ya right.... HAVE FUN BUD

challagan · Jun 30, 2007

Yeah, that solid surface stuff is expensive. It's the nice part of the kitchen cause I didn't go whole hog on cabinets. I bought stock unfinished oak cabinets and finished them myself and changed out some of the hardware, added my own crown moldings and end panels I made out of unfinished paneled doors. They didn't cost 500.00 each but they look good

Here is the kicker the counter top I just ordered it tonight and it is for the top of the 36 inch corner cab and the 18 inch drawered cab on the end so it is 36 by 54 inches. It;s the L in the kitchen. That counter was 600.00 with the back splash. Here is the kicker... the 9 foot long section with a sink cut out and seperate back splash is only 268.00 more than the other counter! Anyway... I am not using top of the line stuff in most cases and compared to granite this isn't either but it is nice than laminate.

I finally have settled on vinyl for the floor. It's not the "trendy" thing but for us it's a quick in and out day job for the installer ( one of the few things I am not doing in it) and it's easy to change down the road, it's soft to the feet and easier on the back and the yahoo's in my house won't tear it up like a wood floor or ruin it with water like a laminate! They call me the sheriff cause I am always chewing butt on somebody on the oak floors I refinished in the hallway and living room... especially the daughter in her dancing shoes, soccer shoes etc. GET THEM DARN THINGS OFF MY FLOOR!!! Son says uh oh.. the sheriff is awake

The rolling base will be some glued up Oak panels that I got free from my father-in-law a few years ago when he was a factory rep for that company and some oak plywood. I will be using glue and pocket screws for this and the router table cabinet it self. I will be building the cabinet for the table like the OP table only mine will have 2 drawers in the side. Bottom shelf in the base will hold the mini router table and some push blocks etc. and the other shelf will hold the OP fences, the Incra jig stuff and if room the Gifkin jig. Going to have some fun tomorrow and the best part is knowing the top is made and don't have to screw with that!

Corey

bobj3 · Jun 30, 2007

Just some snapshots of the Vac.pickup for the Incra Jig on a the small router table,,,this jig can be removed with two small wing nuts if needed

It's made with some 1/2" MDF 2ea. 10-24 x 1" carr.bolts,2ea. flat waskers,2ea. 10-24 (3/16" ) wing nuts...1" x 2 1/2 plastic apt.pickup tupe...
You will see the jig off to one side of the Incra jig this gives the tube room to lock in the hole....just push it in place and you are set to suck up the chips.

It can be installed quick and easy by just removing the big black plastic wing and slip the Vac.pickup over the Incra jig.

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challagan · Jul 1, 2007

That's cool Bj, very nice. I would never have thought to do that. Looks like it will work and more!

Corey

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