Goodness I could never run that, you got to be smarter then what you are trying to operate and I am not!!!

 

I agree with Jerry, Why overcomplicate a simple device to route stock by configuring a beast like that. Waste of time IMO.

 

Sante',
A work of art.
Thanks for posting it.

 

Well it certainly looks interesting, and here I thought that I went over the top with overkill on shop made tools, not like that I don't. I would almost think that jigs and fixtures could be built that would accomplish every function of this Rubik's Cube in a lot less time than it took to build it and at a whole lot less cost.

 

Daniel, what a "table" and what a presentation, however, as others have suggested, it's far too complex for the average wood-working hobbyist, once built, it takes away most of the skill and ingenuity that we hobbyists are noted for.

 

Daniel:

Is your friend Champy an engineer? Or a mad scientist?

Others:

Sure, the design is way overcomplicated and probably would not be entertained by any of us mere mortals. However, maybe there are features of Champy's table that one might like to use in one's design, either as is or modified for one's needs. Let's not stifle creativity, please?

Cassandra
Devil's Advocate In Training

 

Hi Santé

All I can say is wow,,,I took at look at the PDF file and said what a night mare one needs a 500 page manual to run it,,,it's like getting into a F16 and say OK fly it ..it would take all day long just to find the start button...


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Hi all,

My friend Champy has made a router table very, very, very sophisticated. You can see at this address.
You've never seen such a table

http://www.lescopeaux.asso.fr/Techniques/clic.php3?url=Docs/Champy_Tool001.pdf

Cheers

Santé

 

Get me on that plane!! Shoot, I'll gladly sit there and look for the start button!

Whoa, bogeys at 2 O'clock....

 

I agree that this is a very complicated endeavor, but I suspect that it was the challenge of building it, as much as anything that drove Champy to make it.
Sometimes it's the journey, and not the destination, that is the true reward.
Very impressive and well done!

 

What a beautiful definition! That is exactly right!

For BobJ,
could not you rather he was a pilot of F16 (military :sarcasticilot, I am sure, F16, not quite sure!)

 

Agreed, Tim! To the journey, and all it can teach us!

Cassandra

 

Well, I have to agree with many here. My big question is What does Champy do, and what does He plan on making? I would love to have a mind like that. I noticed that the table moves away from the tool. Is that for the sake of removing the router, or the Bit? I want to thank You for posting it. I will have to think what I can to mine to make it more challenging

 

Hi friends

My mate Santé gave you a link to see my new router table (third one...).
I'll take pleasure to answer to all your questions (with my 'poor' english)

Just a few words to introduce myself. I'm 50, retired french figther pilot (Jaguar, Mirage...) and not an engineer at all. I don't like sophisticated systems, but I appreciate 'confort' and 'easy job'.
When young, I had technical studies. Now, I like to create machines, just for fun and personal use.
Some people think I'm crazy. Hmm, not false ! Actually, as I can't paint, I can't sing, I can't perform any art, I take pleasure on this way...

I sincerely hope you'll find some ideas for your own future router table with this project...

Two following folders will come in a few weeks on our website, in order to show this machine in use and to explain some technical issues.
If a nice human translator accept to help me, I shall put theses files on line in english too.

Best regards, Champy




Don't forget to drink one glass (or two...) of Bordeaux wine every day. Mandatory to stay in good health ! :dance3:

 

Hi friends

My mate Santé gave you a link to see my new router table (third one...).
I'll take pleasure to answer to all your questions (with my 'poor' english)

Just a few words to introduce myself. I'm 50, retired french figther pilot (Jaguar, Mirage...) and not an engineer at all. I don't like sophisticated systems, but I appreciate 'confort' and 'easy job'.
When young, I had technical studies. Now, I like to create machines, just for fun and personal use.
Some people think I'm crazy. Hmm, not false ! Actually, as I can't paint, I can't sing, I can't perform any art, I take pleasure on this way...

I sincerely hope you'll find some ideas for your own future router table with this project...

Two following folders will come in a few weeks on our website, in order to show this machine in use and to explain some technical issues.
If a nice human translator accept to help me, I shall put theses files on line in english too.

Best regards, Champy

Don't forget to drink one glass (or two...) of Bordeaux wine every day. Mandatory to stay in good health ! :dance3:

Very interesting looking machine. I'd sure like to see what it can do. Here's what I use to translate - it works pretty good: Google Translate

 

Another way at looking at this table is that it encompasses all of the jig technology that everyone on this forum finds so appealing. I daresay that if any of we newbies tried to comprehend every jig that the veterans have designed, used, or at least seen over the years, we would find that complete set just as daunting.

It would be interesting to see it in use, that's for sure!

Bob

 

Champy's invention...

A thorough explanation of the philosophy behind his router table:

Rube Goldberg machine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can see the router table in use at a recent trade show in Atlanta:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rube_goldberg_machine.jpg

(just kidding!)

:lol:

 

Welcome to the community Champy. Any friend of Santes (Daniel) has to be a friend of ours.

 

great work

 

Wow!

 

Well done Champy! This project is remarkable.
I am puzzled by some comments though. Why not over-complicate our projects, unless you are selling your time for money and trying to make a living off of your tools and skills, of course.
I suspect we all take pride in our endeavors mostly because we did not do them the quickest, easiest way - we did them to challenge our skills and ablilities. I would say Champy has climbed this mountain of his own design - because he could. That is the reward all of us splinter makers seek. I hope Champy can enjoy some of the admiration expressed by those of us who recognize adn apreciate the mountain climbers.

 

Well said Dirk, thank you:sold:

 

After looking again, it doesn't seem all that complicated; it just has a lot of features. From what I can tell, the main table (i.e. in vertical router mode) slides left-right and in and in-out. Both the (vertical mode) fence iand router lift are motorized and have manual adjustmernt capability as well (i.e. fine tuning). I believe that there are also stop blocks to set the left-right movement of the table.

In addition to all this, the entire table can be tilted 90° to make a horizontal router. In this mode, the motorized fence is now the motorized table (horizontal mode table is attached to the vertical mode fence). In addition, the router can now tilted between 90° and 45° (I don't know if this is possible in vertical mode).

So, bottom line, it's not really that complicated to use. I imagine that the slidng table is a nice feature; just clamp the workpiece down and slide the whole table. This is actually similar to a (European style) slidng table saw, which is what is duplicated with a table saw sled.

 

I like your table very much, it takes the router table to a new level. If you ever get your document translated to english. I love to look at it again.

Good job.

 

Hi from Bordeaux

I thank you for friendly and nice remarks.

RJM60 explained the overall functions very well (not easy for me, as it's not my language...).
This tool seems complicated... But it is not !

Shortly. The table can be used as a flat classical one, in horizontal config. In this case, the router can be tilted from 0 to 45°. With a straight milling bilt, we can cut from 0° to 45°.
When the table is tilted in vertical config, the router can cut from 45° to 90°.
This is the unique new idea (and I'm not sure I'm the precursor...)

I made all the remaining accessories because I'm lazy, I like comfort and security. :lazy:
- Cross tables
- Motorized setups
- Integrated measuring
- Additional tricks...

I'm working on a small video to show in details how this table works, but I'm not Spielberg and not a good actor :sad: So it will take some weeks to end.
I intend to put english subtitles.
I shall certaintly ask for some help at this time...

Just to wait, here's an old and short movie, made during the building of the table.
I'm not allowed to put URL from now, but here's the link :
'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEOeghu4Mw'
Just copy and paste it (without quotes) in your internet browser.

I wish you'll get nice wooden chips

CU
Champy

 

very nice! all you need to do now is start production of them and sell them for a few bucks a piece and you'll make the forum members really happy!.

 

Hi again

My previous message has not yet been online (mod's accept), but I can give you an english version of Champytool 2 document.

You just have to connect to our site at this adress :
'http://www.lescopeaux.asso.fr' (write it without quotes in your favourite internet browser)

In the main page left brown panel, click on 'Techniques'.
Then, in the same panel, click on 'Défonçage' (which means 'Router use' in french).

In the following list, choose the folder speaking of 'Champytool 2' (first one at this time), and click on 'English translation' to download the pdf document.

Best regards, Champy :dance3:

 

Very sophisticated router table, any chance your friend Champy has more detailed plans available? Thanks Paul

 

Soon...

Hi all.

I work on my video and I hope it will soon be online... (More difficult than making a router table... )
First one will be in french, but I intend to make the english translation on the run.

Please, just give me some days to finalize it.

Dear Paul, plans are made with Google Sketchup V7 and the file size is about 18 Megabytes. So I can't send it by email :sad:.
Plans link will soon be available for download on our site : 'www.LesCopeaux.asso.fr', chapter 'Techniques', then 'Défonçage'.

CU
Best regards, Champy

 

Hi all.

I work on my video and I hope it will soon be online... (More difficult than making a router table... )
First one will be in french, but I intend to make the english translation on the run.

Please, just give me some days to finalize it.

Dear Paul, plans are made with Google Sketchup V7 and the file size is about 18 Megabytes. So I can't send it by email :sad:.
Plans link will soon be available for download on our site : 'www.LesCopeaux.asso.fr', chapter 'Techniques', then 'Défonçage'.

CU
Best regards, Champy

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Yes, the table seems very complicated to those of us who have never envisioned its likely many uses, but remember this, when Champy designed and built it, he clearly had a useful purpose in mind for each feature he included. I'm very impressed with this piece of equipment. Nevertheless, there IS something to be said for the genius it takes to simplify the complicated. Can anyone say "Rube Goldberg?"

 

... Nevertheless, there IS something to be said for the genius it takes to simplify the complicated. Can anyone say "Rube Goldberg?"

Don't you mean complicate the simple?

 

Check out his other videos and machines, the oscillating sander is awesome. I don't think i'd ever get anything done If I attempted or had to build machines when I need them. VERY impressive.

"http://www.youtube.com/user/CCHAMPY33#p/u/9/4w6eFNav7gA