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dovetail joints

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Hello. I bought my router some time ago but didn't use it much because my unsteady hand coould not hold the damned thing straight, however the cuts were getting straighter with practice but recently i picked up a router table that was designed to go with my router and finally got round to mounting it today. A project i want to build is some shelves and although you can buy metal angle brackets as cheap as chips, I saw a design for some home made wooden ones whcih although would cost more to make than buying some metal ones, the sense of achievement would be greater. The angle brackets use a dovetail joint and i have a dovetail bit for my router but my question is that although it's obvious how to cut a dovetail groove, how would one cut the bit that slides in it? is there a tried ant tested way or is the way i'm suspecting that uses quite a bit of measuring the only way?

Thanks
 
#2 ·
I suspect you are describing what is called a sliding dovetail joint, one cut that goes along the full width of the workpiece. To make that cut you will have to stand the shelves upright (unless you have a table with a horizontal router). DO NOT change the depth of the cut after making the notch. Use a fairly tall fence to help you keep things straight. You will have to make the dovetail by trial and error, cutting a very little at a time until you get the correct setting.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Sliding dovetail joints, the male portion, are cut in two passes by moving the fence forward to cover most of the bit (obviously you need a split fence or a sacrificial face to cut with the bit to provide clearance).

You start by exposing just a little bit, make a pass, flip the board so the opposite face is against the fence and make another pass. Test the fit and adjust the fence position as needed. Don't try and measure things like this with a ruler. Just eyeball it close and make test cuts in a sample piece (with the same thickness as your shelves). The height of the bit can be left the same as it was when the female portion of the DT groove is cut. Guarantees a matching shoulder height on the DT tenon portion.

Also, since you are routing end grain, there is the potential for chipout as you exit the cut so consider making the shelve stock a little deeper so you can rip a fresh edge after routing to remove the chipout. Obviously, if there was no chipout you would be ripping an edge anyway to get them to proper width. Maybe an extra 1/4" is sufficient, that gives you 1/8" to rip away on each long edge should you need it.

FYI, when cutting the female portion of the piece I suggest you first use a straight bit to hog out most of the waste from the center of the dovetail groove. Dovetail bits often neck down quite severely, especially 1/4" shaft models. You have to make the cut with the DT bit at full depth so it must work very hard and remove a lot of material in a single pass. By pre-routing the groove with a straight bit you have less to remove with the DT bit. It will last longer, be less likely to be damaged, less strain on the router, etc.
 
#9 ·
The BEST sliding dovetail fixture is the one below,you don't need to buy it, you can make your own and it's well worth the time to do so :)
The fixture can be used for many,many other router jobs not just for dovetails..

Just a note,,,, you don't need to use any other bit other than the one dovetail bit you have selected to use..

Mitre Gauge System - Oak-Park.com
Oak Park Enterprises Ltd.: Catalogue

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#15 ·
Bj:

Thanks for the link on the dovetail Fixture.

I have wanted to cut dovetail for quite a while now but never saw a good demonstration before.

I will attempt to make my own fixture and see if it turns out okay.

I think that my biggest problem will be to create the layout or plan.

While I don't need any fire wood, I like to roast hot dogs so it can not possibly be a waste.

Thanks,

Woodie
 
#16 · (Edited)
Hi Woodie

Your Welcome
Here's a shot of the one I made, so to say if I did it you can do it also :)
It may help with yours...

Just a note,, it can also be used for a sled on you router table :)

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#18 · (Edited)
Hi Woodie

Your Welcome

You are right on,, any time you want to use sliding dovetails the jig will do the trick, on and angle or a strait true dovetail.. for drawers,drawer fonts,shelfs,boxes,etc.,many ask how to use plywood on the sides of drawers, this jig will let you do that easy..you could almost call it a hidden joint if done right.. :) and it's a very strong joint....

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