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It ain’t perfect, but...

5.6K views 28 replies 21 participants last post by  papasombre  
#1 · (Edited)
...I made it anyway. A kitchen table hutch for a coworker whose wife sketched out the details. Went through the final details with the husband and the rest is history. Muffed the long ‘wall’ by forgetting the layout of the middle portion, etc. Was glad to see I could make dados on both sides of a 1/4” piece of Maple without compromising the material. Used clear Titebond glue which was a big help. A freebie job that I completed in less than a week with about 18 hours into it.

Another good learning experience on how-to and how-not-to make a box. The practice will be useful for a copycat project - a tea box.
 

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The ‘customer’ was especially taken by them but to me they were a design nuisance. Here’s why - anything off a 90-degree cut widens that mitered surface’s width, so each of those 45-degree radius cuts added half again as much material to mate up as a simple square corner would have. Lining up the interior surfaces left a good 1/16” of material sticking past the joint - I just crudely shaved it off with a chisel and rounded them off with 80 grit until I could go to a lower grade of sandpaper. With all the other warts to try and conceal, this was the worst one. Thankfully, they will love this freebie and never complain but I’m wondering how to do it correctly - if there is a way. The upcoming Tea Box Won’t have any radius corners!
 
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Here is a video. You have a end board meeting the side board at 45°so the inside angle is 135°. Half of that is 67.5°. This is very important to know because you are going to be running into situations all the time where you have to miter a corner that is not at 90°. This is especially true if you ever have to run trim as in a house. Most corners are not 90° and you have to make a good fit.
Also you can stand the boards together at the angle you want then draw a line between the inside angle and the outside angle with out ever knowing the actual angle is in degrees.


Herb
 
#17 ·
I like it. Has kind of a 30s moderne look to it. Only thing I'd add would be some short feet so it stands above instead of in sister Susie's spilled sauce. Reminds me of something out of my way back memory bank. Some good advice on construction. Getting miters right is such a challenge
 
#19 ·
Great design Brian. Working with 1/4" wood must be a challenge, one I haven't tried yet but I do have some boxes to make so 1/4", 3/8", and maybe 1/2" will be likely used. I had to look hard at what Herb was referring to and then I remembered my experience with an 8 sided piece I made long ago. Finding the exact angle versus what I ended up with was just slightly off. When it comes to projects I've done many over the years and a few based on Norm Abram's designs such as a few bookcases and then an entertainment center based on that bookcase design. In almost every project I can think of there is a flaw/design change that I almost always see first when I look at them because I know where to look. Others who have seen the piece many times never noticed but I'm drawn to that each time.

Each design change/flaw has been a teaching moment and I am still learning evidently......but I seldom repeat the same mistake as I have many more yet to discover. While your table hutch may not be perfect it is highly functional and the next likely will be even better. Just to mention what Tom said adding some small feet would be helpful I think.
 
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You are all much smarter than I am - but no more! I have the mathematical solution and will use it on the next piece! Thanks Herb and Chris... please promise me you will reveal my ineptitudes every time you see them.

Many thanks for all the encouragement after such a klutzy start. The 1/4" material wasn't as tough to deal with Steve since it was very sturdy Maple. Another 'improvement' I'll be making is to 'mic' the stock coming out of the planer and fitting it into a test dado for the best fit. This can only get better, right? Hello? Ha!
 
#26 ·
I like the overall design. The radiused items add interest to it. For a first try at box building you get a high five, a gold star and an attaboy.
 
#27 ·
Brian,

We all tend to be critical of our projects, but lets face it, it is very nice and practical and a gift. It sure beats my table piece that only holds napkins and the S&P shakers !
I do like that mine has a handle, did you consider that as a feature ?

Dan
 
#28 ·
Yes, it was a good learning experience and I can't ask anything for what is essentially a prototype for gaining skills. I really prefer to gift what I make as most of my friends are looking for or likely to spend what these things are worth. Cuts out a lot of expectations and complication in doing this well.

For a handle, since it wasn't going to go anywhere we didn't want a handle sticking up in the way of all the cubbies. And it's a bit hefty so two hands are needed to move it with all its contents still loaded in it. A smaller, simpler version could certainly use a handle. Good thought...