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Plywood, the good stuff?

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I want to buy some 3/4" plywood with a good face on both sides and no interior voids. I have googled and googled and read and read and I am still confused. What kind of ply do they call it and what would be the grade? Also if anyone knows an estimate on what a price would be that would be nice.
 
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Appleply-- made by States Industries -- is good plywood, very good plywood. Made in the US-of-A. Equals Baltic Birch quality and stability. Multiple veneer core. Available in 4x8' sheets -- not metric sized! 'Fer 'zample': a 4x8' sheets of 3/4" has 13 plies.

Have been told that the so-called "Russian Birch" is not very stable, has voids, and not worth the cost.

Read all 'bout it: States Industries
 
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Appleply-- made by States Industries -- is good plywood, very good plywood. Made in the US-of-A. Equals Baltic Birch quality and stability. Multiple veneer core. Available in 4x8' sheets -- not metric sized! 'Fer 'zample': a 4x8' sheets of 3/4" has 13 plies.

Have been told that the so-called "Russian Birch" is not very stable, has voids, and not worth the cost.

Read all 'bout it: States Industries
agreed on the apple ply...
it's the knock offs that are the issue...
 
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Balic Birch around here is in 5x5 sheets around $50 per sheet. Rockler and some other woodworking stores carry it, lumber yards. Some have suggested checking local cabinet shops to see where they buy it from, or even arrange to buy it through them. I have heard nice things about Appleply, but have never used it. The 4x8 sheets would be nice. Real Baltic Birch does not have voids, but the second side usually has some patches. Chinese cheap stuff sold at big box stoes isn't particularly nice and almost always has voids. A sheet I got not long ago had a layer made of bamboo strips and was useless. Impossible to cut a clean dado, rabbit or groove without splintering. I have to drive 120 miles RT to buy the real stuff, but prefer to look it over carefully for warping before buying. Once you use Baltic Birch quality ply, you won't settle for anything else.
 
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Once you use Baltic Birch quality ply, you won't settle for anything else.
Tom that's what happened to me . After getting a taste of BB , I won't use any other material. I have too pay a premium , but I just love working with it and the outcome of a project is always far better :)
It's funny as I didn't know there was such a thing as BB till I joined
 
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This is always a conundrum because some of this stuff is hard to come by in different regions. Apple Ply, to the best of my knowledge, is non-existent in the Eastern half of the US. Baltic Birch is expensive and hard to source, but available if you look. Most of us will have to engage in a road trip to get BB, which drives up the cost.

I sympathize with people trying to get BB. I can acquire it through the area Hood Distributor/Mc Ewen Group but as I was told by a Hood rep, they bill through the local Woodcraft store. OUCH! A half sheet of "3/4" is $50+. This would be around 20-25% more than what a comparable 5' x 5' was quoted above.

I looked at some USA made (Birch) faced ply at Lowe's yesterday. $47 for a piece of "3/4" that were so full of voids that I swear you could have seen through to the other end.

So, the only solution I see is to find a source for BB (or Apple Ply) make a road trip and bring your checkbook (stock up).
 
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Check the classified in some of the boat magazines.
 
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I could kick myself because I bought a sheet of 1/2" BB for $33 when it went on sale at WP. Screwed up my window casing and went back for more and it was three times the cost .
I should have bought a dozen sheets at that awesome price when I had the chance :(
Don't know where I would have stored it though :|
 
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Locally, I don't care to buy the plywood from the big blue box store. They don't carry birch, just oak, maple and blondewood.

Now at the big orange store, they carry birch made by Columbia Products in the USA. That seems to be OK for paint grade, which is C2. Obviously grade C2 is not the best cabinet grade. I go to the Hardwood dealer to buy the good stuff. The walnut I bought for the liquor cabinet was almost $125 for the 4x8 sheet. Birch can be had good one side or two. You pay for what to you get.
 
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Special Order Plywood



I can tell you guys that you can get even better grades and choose your plys material as a special order from HD and Columbia Products. I ordered, for a set of whole-wall cabinets, this stuff 17 sheets, total: Purebond Formaldehyde Free

PANEL: 3/4", 4' X 8', MPX Composed, B, B, R/C Whole Piece, Maple, Sap, R/C Whole 77.45 / PNL
PANEL: 3/4", 4' X 8', MPX Composed, A, A, R/C Whole Piece, Maple, Sap, R/C Whole 102.79 / PNL
PANEL: 1/2", 4' X 8', MPX Composed, B, B, R/C Whole Piece, Maple, Sap, R/C Whole 69.50 / PNL

That was priced for shipping and everything delivered to HD locally in Mobile. I felt that, because it was a special order and it was not a whole unit, the price was very good. If I had purchased an entire unit, I would have saved another 10%. All the plys were hardwood, not softwood or "netherwood"

You can, actually special order one sheet or as many as you can cart off, makes no difference.
 
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Rainman, if there are no trees in BC, where does Sasquatch hide during the day?
I repaired the deck and seats in my old boat several years ago. I'm not sure about the surfaces as they weren't furniture quality. I was told that marine plywood has not voids to prevent water from collecting in the wood layers.
Shocked at the prices of plywood as mentioned here. I might cut come trees and make my own. Yeh, right!