Whew!

 

That is ridiculously expensive Don. Use these : Bushings and Inserts - Lee Valley Tools and make your own drilling jigs. May lack the bells and whistles but accomplish the same thing at a fraction of the price. All a doweling jig has to do is accurately register from the same starting point(s). I just made a jig out of scrap lumber and ply to drill dowel holes for the bottom shelf of a vanity I'm building. It just had to register the same from one corner and two edges to work. There should be one or two pictures in my uploads of one I made to drill the dowel holes for a center dividing panel in another cupboard.

 

Also, check out Lee Valley's doweling jigs http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,180&p=42311&ap=1cat=1,180,42311&p=42319&ap=1[/URL]

This link leads to their Jigs, Guides and Supports index. the have several Doweling jigs at reasonable prices. Disclaimer: I have no idea where they are made and I do not own any of them.

Also it is noteworthy that Lee Valley is offering free shipping for orders over $40 until Aug. 31.

 

Woodpecker needs to get their angle adjusted...methinks they're a bit off perpendicular to the consumer need.

Who buys this cr@p ... have they considered woodworker demographics...?

Do you suppose the senior leadership of the Woodpecker organization takes stupid pills every morning and a little extra just before the Marketing VP walks in with a brand new idea...?????? :blink::wacko:

...and then there's the dopes that create the demand for this stuff...maybe they think there's gold under that red paint...:moil:

Are there any Woodpecker company reps on the forum...? Maybe they can speak up and justify this stupidity... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Truly deserving of a SNORT ! ! ! !


WHAT HAPPENED ?...ok...I'm back to normal now...


Gee...what a well-crafted tool that is...precision milling manufacturing at it's best...

 

Such a bargain. Think I'll order a few for resale.

 

I like many of the Woodpecker products, but don't take anything they send an email on seriously, because they charge times more than others do for aluminum products.

 

So where does this contraption fall? Certainly not in the commercial circles where production is much faster. And not in my shop where I rarely attempt to install dowels in my projects. And my shelf pin jig is a lot faster than this thing.

While it appears to be a good item and very versatile, I can't justify forking over that much moolah.

Maybe some of you furniture guys can chime in to enlighten me.

 

Holy crapola, Batman!

 

Just remember. Google is our friend.
https://www.google.com/#q=homemade+dowel+jig

 

I like several of the Woodpecker offerings but I can't justify their prices. I don't really need them and I won't pay what I feel is a rip off price.

 

I started falling for the Woodpecker one-time nonsense, but I caught myself before I fell hard. It's crazy.

 

I believe it is called a luxury. As a child I asked what a luxury was. Dad said to never mind about luxury that its for folks with more dollars than sense.

 

When I was a kid, paper toilet paper was considered a luxury. Best we could come up with, until I was in the 7th grade, was a Monkey Ward catalog. And that is not a joke.

 

Woodpecker charges what it costs to manufacture products in the USA. When you have to pay a fair wage to a legal citizen, provide insurance, workman's comp, safe work environment, pay vacation and maternity leave, combat leave, holidays, OSHA compliance, EOE compliance, pay for certifications, and the lists goes on and on.

Festool is another company that has to meet these stringent and unending requirements. To think they have to justify it seems sad. Americans have gotten so used to cheap Chinese products and yet complain because all the jobs and service industries to support such tools are all but gone.

Everything has a price and our country is paying it, one way or another.

 

the only thing is there isn't $600 of time and materials in that thing, the bushings are from china, same as the screws. they CNC the rest.

I'm a retired tool and die maker, and I could machine that on my manual machines for less then what they are asking

 

I've got a few Woodpecker's one-timers, along with a few of their regular products--very nice equipment. Despite the fine quality though most of the other OTT's seem pretty expensive for limited use--at least to me. In this case it's a very cool tool, but the money is crazy big for my blood. In perspective, a few weeks ago i spent less funds for a slightly used Incra kit including 43" table, stand, 25" positioner, wonder fence, about a dozen unused Whiteside router bits, and some other odds & ends. Much better value to me because i can and do use it for a LOT of different functions.

My opinion only, certainly those with different budgets have different tastes. My Kreg & Incra stuff is expensive fluff for a hobbyist in the opinion of many, but i can do it. So...for that reason i'll respect those who opt for this jig, but can't pull any envy together for it.

earl

 

I have two of their items, one is the dial caliper for setting the fence (worth the money) and a router table plate, which I really like, heavy duty. But for the most part, I don't think their items are worth the money. [MENTION=36287]timbertailer is correct about the massive regulation and the costs it imposes. Our trade agreements do not require the same of foreign manufacturers, the multi-national corporations have paid good money to politicians to make sure that trade is open, but not fair.

 

Agree with Tom. There are times when a tool justifies its price but that is always an issue ot be examined VERY carefully.

 

I have to disagree. Were it otherwise, my shop went from a twenty-five to thirty-five thousand dollars shop to a quarter million dollar one. Said another way, us [their] bread and butter guys wouldn't even play the game and they'd be out of it completely.


Americans have gotten so used to cheap Chinese products and yet complain because all the jobs and service industries to support such tools are all but gone.

Everything has a price and our country is paying it, one way or another.[/QUOTE]

 

Everything has a price...including our politicians who sold us down the river as far as domestic manufacturers go.

 

Yeah, I had been on their mailing list until I got this a week or so ago. The last straw. I unsubscribed.

 

I'll keep them around. Sometimes, and this is one, they are good for a laugh. April Fools in August.

 

I agree with you guys, that price for a doweling jig is insane.

That said, a friend has some of the Woodpecker Measuring & Layout tools and if you haven't had the chance to see them, they are in a class of their own. Nothing that I have seen or own, that comes from Asia, is even close, as far as tools go.

As we all know, it costs a lot more to buy American...
Thank You Washington D.C.

 

I have a few of their items but agree that the price can't be justified on most of them. Odd how their "one time" items keep showing up several times a year. I usually bought my Woodpecker items at woodworking shows where they are much cheaper. My favorite place to shop (local tool supplier) has vendor shows several times a year and the "under the tent" prices are better there too. Interesting info: OneTime Tool Products - Main Page

Maybe they cost too much because of the way they are made: one time limited production runs.

 

Yikes! That is outrageous. Must be associated with Festool:grin: I have the Harbor Freight one, Item 41345, for $15. It has done everything I need it to do and I'm pretty sure I used a 20% off coupon when I bought it.

 

Don't let Rick see this!

 

Looks very nice but they'd have to move the decimal point to the left for me to consider it.

 

They have started re-making some of their one time tools because people are asking for them that were not interested at the time they were made or they just now got into woodworking and have seen pictures of out of production items.

They should start calling them limited production run tools so they can make offers for an item and say if you don't get one now it will be 10 years before they will be available again or if we sell out quickly we will make another production run within a few months.