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What Type Of Washer To Reduce Friction Between Moving Meatal Parts

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#1 · (Edited)
I'm fixing the metal arm on pull down attic stairs. The rivet that attaches the metal arm to the fixed metal frame plate has worn out. This allows the arm to go out of alignment and the spring to pop out of its travel path. I've drilled out the rivet and will use a lag screw to attach the arm to the plate and penetrate the wood frame and attic floor joist. The lag screw will hold the metal arm to the metal frame plate but the arm has to be able to pivot. I'm planning on sandwiching the metal arm between 2 washers....one washer between the arm and the lag screw head and the other between the arm and the metal frame plate.
What type of washers to use? Plastic? Nylon? Fiber?
 
#6 ·
I'll be using a 3/8" lag screw......#8 if they have it. I'm not sure of the gauge of the arm or mounting plate metal but they are not thin or flimsy. The manufacturer connects them with a rivet. I've contacted the manufacturer and this type of wear is not an uncommon problem. I've seen some on-line blogs and a lot of folks seem to have encountered the same problem. One blogger was going to use a hex bolt and nylock nut to make the connection....not a bad idea but the bolt head would not be accessable if the nut ever loosened....so I decided to go with a lag screw. I could buy an entire arm assembly from the manufacturer but I figured I'd try this quick and less expensive fix first. This is for attic pulldown stairs which get very little use.
 
#7 ·
Depends on often you use the stairway. Mine has been in the ceiling for a bit over 20 years and not worn out yet. I am, though.
If the stairway has worn out the original hardware already, go with metal washers and lightly coat them with Vaseline. The plastic will wear out.
 
#9 ·
the lag is softer than the original rivet... it won't last either..
 
#11 ·
I had trouble with the real holder in a wire feed MIG welder. The wing nut would tighten itself against the spring that offered friction to keep the reel of wire from coasting during the starts and stops of the feeder. I tried several kinds of metal and plastic type washers. and all transferred enough friction to the wing nut that It would tighten. I finally has success with a grade 8 hardness washer. If nothing else works, try some of them.

Charley